[AusRace] Racing Digest, Vol 18, Issue 3

norsaintpublishing at gmail.com norsaintpublishing at gmail.com
Mon Jun 18 21:33:26 AEST 2018


Ok thanks Len. Not sure if I'm au fait enough with the concept to come up
with anything so sophisticated as an algorithm. If I do, you'll be my first
port of call.
Did fiddle around with ideas by Gavin Haynes a few year's ago but his stats
must be outdated by now.
For some reason all the replies have come through aggregated which makes
replying damned confusing.




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>>    1. Par times (norsaintpublishing at gmail.com)
>>    2. Re: Par times (mikemcbain at tpg.com.au)
>>    3. Re: Par times (L.B.Loveday)
>>    4. Re: Par times (Tony Moffat)
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>> From: "norsaintpublishing at gmail.com" <norsaintpublishing at gmail.com>
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>> Subject: [AusRace] Par times
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>> Does anyone know how or where to get them for Aust courses?
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>> From: <mikemcbain at tpg.com.au>
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>> Subject: Re: [AusRace] Par times
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>> Norsaint
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>> Neale Yardley recently made the following comment in an email?.
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>> ?Again my thanks go to Steven Angelides from PPFA for providing the par
>> times. Steven is back in Australia from Hong Kong and is touring Australia
>> if anyone would like to catch up with him (he is happy to talk about Bet
>> Selector, PPFA, Hong Kong or anything else racing related). Venues and
>> dates are listed below but please note Steven has a new mobile number which
>> is 0413164550. His email is still the same viz  <mailto:stavros at wn.com.au>
>> stavros at wn.com.au?
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>> Might be worth your while asking Steven?
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>> Mike.
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>> From: "L.B.Loveday" <lloveday at ozemail.com.au>
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>> Subject: Re: [AusRace] Par times
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>> Nick,
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>> "Par times" is, to me, a nebulous term - they can be calculated in
>> various ways, times are affected by track condition (not only on the day,
>> but by permanent upgrades such as at Gawler), rail positioning, wind
>> direction, riding tactics, in-race mishaps such as a fall, the class of
>> horses, whether there are zero, one, two? "natural" leaders and whether
>> they vie for the lead, weight conditions??
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>> So I never consider them, but I do have a database of every Australian
>> race for the past 20+ years,  including:
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>> Date,
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>> Course,
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>> Distance,
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>> Class,
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>> Limit Weight,
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>> Weight carried by placegetters,
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>> Condition,
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>> No of starters,
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>> Prizemoney,
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>> and of course Time
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>> You determine an algorithm for calculating par times and I'll write a
>> program and send you the results; otherwise you are just relying on someone
>> else's methodology, almost certainly without knowing the basis of his
>> determinations.
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>> LBL
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>> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 18:58:56 +0800
>> From: "Tony Moffat" <tonymoffat at bigpond.com>
>> To: "'AusRace Racing Discussion List'" <racing at ausrace.com>
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>> Saintly ? I don?t know if the other mail made it through ? it was big
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>> Is this the type of info you need?
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>> Who does this?
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>> Cheers
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>> Tony
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>> Ball a rat
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>> 900 (firm) 51.8
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>> 900 (good) 52.5
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>> 900 (soft) 53.4
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>> 900 (heavy) 54.6
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>> 1000 (firm) 56.5
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>> 1000 (good) 57.9
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>> 1000 (soft) 59.1
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>> 1000 (heavy) 1.0.7
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>> 1100 (firm) 1.2.4
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>> 1100 (good) 1.3.9
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>> 1100 (soft) 1.5.7
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>> 1100 (heavy) 1.7.3
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>> 1200 (firm) 1.9.1
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>> 1200 (good) 1.10.3
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>> 1200 (soft) 1.12.0
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>> 1200 (heavy) 1.13.1
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>> 1400 (firm) 1.23.2
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>> 1400 (good) 1.24.5
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>> 1400 (soft) 1.26.3
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>> 1400 (heavy) 1.28.2
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>> 1500 (firm) 1.31.3
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>> 1500 (good) 1.32.6
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>> 1500 (soft) 1.34.3
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>> 1500 (heavy) 1.36.5
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>> 1600 (firm) 1.37.1
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>> 1600 (good) 1.37.8
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>> 1600 (soft) 1.40.0
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>> 1600 (heavy) 1.42.5
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>> 2000 (firm) 2.3.8
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>> 2000 (good) 2.6.1
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>> 2000 (soft) 2.7.7
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>> 2000 (heavy) 2.10.9
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>> 2200 (firm) 2.14.8
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>> 2200 (good) 2.17.7
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>> 2200 (soft) 2.20.6
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>> 2200 (heavy) 2.22.4
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