[AusRace] Racing Digest, Vol 18, Issue 3

Mon Jun 18 21:26:46 AEST 2018

G'day Mike,
        Thanks for the suggestion. I got that email too  but had forgotten
all about it. Must be an age thing.

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> Does anyone know how or where to get them for Aust courses?
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> Neale Yardley recently made the following comment in an email?.
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> ?Again my thanks go to Steven Angelides from PPFA for providing the par
> times. Steven is back in Australia from Hong Kong and is touring Australia
> if anyone would like to catch up with him (he is happy to talk about Bet
> Selector, PPFA, Hong Kong or anything else racing related). Venues and
> dates are listed below but please note Steven has a new mobile number which
> is 0413164550. His email is still the same viz  <mailto:stavros at wn.com.au>
> stavros at wn.com.au?
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> Might be worth your while asking Steven?
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> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 11:49:07 +1000
> From: "L.B.Loveday" <lloveday at ozemail.com.au>
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> Subject: Re: [AusRace] Par times
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> Nick,
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> "Par times" is, to me, a nebulous term - they can be calculated in various
> ways, times are affected by track condition (not only on the day, but by
> permanent upgrades such as at Gawler), rail positioning, wind direction,
> riding tactics, in-race mishaps such as a fall, the class of horses,
> whether there are zero, one, two? "natural" leaders and whether they vie
> for the lead, weight conditions??
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> So I never consider them, but I do have a database of every Australian
> race for the past 20+ years,  including:
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> Date,
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> Course,
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> Distance,
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> Class,
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> Limit Weight,
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> Weight carried by placegetters,
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> Condition,
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> No of starters,
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> Prizemoney,
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> and of course Time
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> You determine an algorithm for calculating par times and I'll write a
> program and send you the results; otherwise you are just relying on someone
> else's methodology, almost certainly without knowing the basis of his
> determinations.
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> LBL
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> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 18:58:56 +0800
> From: "Tony Moffat" <tonymoffat at bigpond.com>
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> Saintly ? I don?t know if the other mail made it through ? it was big
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> Is this the type of info you need?
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> Who does this?
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> Cheers
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> Tony
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> Ball a rat
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> 900 (firm) 51.8
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> 900 (good) 52.5
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> 900 (soft) 53.4
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> 900 (heavy) 54.6
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> 1000 (firm) 56.5
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> 1000 (good) 57.9
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> 1000 (soft) 59.1
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> 1000 (heavy) 1.0.7
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> 1100 (firm) 1.2.4
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> 1100 (good) 1.3.9
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> 1100 (soft) 1.5.7
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> 1100 (heavy) 1.7.3
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> 1200 (firm) 1.9.1
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> 1200 (good) 1.10.3
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> 1200 (soft) 1.12.0
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> 1200 (heavy) 1.13.1
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> 1400 (firm) 1.23.2
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> 1400 (good) 1.24.5
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> 1400 (soft) 1.26.3
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> 1400 (heavy) 1.28.2
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> 1500 (firm) 1.31.3
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> 1500 (good) 1.32.6
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> 1500 (soft) 1.34.3
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> 1500 (heavy) 1.36.5
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> 1600 (firm) 1.37.1
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> 1600 (good) 1.37.8
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> 1600 (soft) 1.40.0
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> 1600 (heavy) 1.42.5
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> 2000 (firm) 2.3.8
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> 2000 (good) 2.6.1
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> 2000 (soft) 2.7.7
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> 2000 (heavy) 2.10.9
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> 2200 (firm) 2.14.8
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> 2200 (good) 2.17.7
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> 2200 (soft) 2.20.6
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> 2200 (heavy) 2.22.4
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