[AusRace] Classic Bet

Fri Oct 23 12:25:20 AEDT 2020

I take very little, usually no, notice of comments from people I don't know.
I judge bookmarkers solely on my dealings with them.

I regard bookmakers as conduits/middlemen to transfer money between other
punters and me (sort of like BetFair without 10% commission). Other punters
are, for me, my opponents, not bookmakers. May the hardest workers prosper. 

When I bet in the Morphettville Auditorium, we used to drink together on
occasions when the betting was done, on a few occasions venture down to
Glenelg for a meal. 

On course I told Webster, Thornton and Churches (maybe only NorSaint will
remember them) that they got an odds wrong - "I'll have $1000 #6 if you're
serious Steve", he whipped the slide across, "No, I'm not serious".
"Thanks", said John, "I don't need a leg-up", "I think you'd do the same
even if you did". Other punters did not like it, but they were my opponents,
I was not seeking their friendship or approval. Having difficulty
reconciling my bets with Ron Bannear's staff - "Just pay Lenny whatever he
says" said Bannear.

In Sydney after Randwick, we'd retire to the War Memorial Club, Wayne
McDonald, assorted bookmaker/TAB/Luxbet staff and a punter. The young would
make their lines to McDonald's daughter (a stunner) and I'd recognise my
limitations and drink/talk.

Yes, I post here warnings about the crooks, but as long as others
(Sportsbet, TAB, TopSport, B365, Sportsbetting notably) are willing/forced
to afford me wine, women and song, c'est la vie! Nothing more, just enough
to live pleasantly month-to-month - if Biden wins and China annexes
Australia, I'm a gonna.

From: Racing On Behalf Of Ken Blake
Sent: Wednesday, 21 October 2020 15:17 PM
To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com>
Subject: Re: [AusRace] Classic Bet

Len.perhaps you have dialogue with some of these people.   Literally
hundreds of complaints against this mob..I actually got tired of scrolling
down plus the rising blood pressure.

Don't ever use sports bet. They scammed my money. There was one time I get
on a table tennis match and the finished result is a win but they counted it
as a loss. Tried to call their customer service which I had to wait for
almost an hour and said they will get back to me after 48 hours. But after a
week they told me that the it was a loss even after proving my bet receipt
with the correct live score from sofa score! They told me I bet on a match
that happened an hour earlier.. so they were trying to tell me that I went
back in time an hour earlier to bet. The worse of all, even after I told
them I watched the matched live and placed a live betting.. They still told
me that they are not gonna do anything about it because they say it's a
loss.. scammmmmmmmmmm....

 <https://au.trustpilot.com/reviews/5f800032798e6f0784a92340> They change
the fixed odds post-bet

Placed a fixed odds bet paying 5/1. Horse won, they paid out 3/1. "Live
chat" took 40 minutes for a response, then they disconnect. Absolute
scam-artists. F*** you, Sportsbet.

 <https://au.trustpilot.com/reviews/5f5ceed302e8570acc36971d> I used bonus
bet

I used bonus bet, no scratchings from acceptance of my bet, underpaid $175.
Worst service ever!!! Three phone calls to 24/7 hotline, one at 1.25am(!)
got the same pre-recorded runaround-90 mins wasted. Three emails. Not a
peep. I've used other betting services, never a problem. This one is the
pits!

 <https://au.trustpilot.com/reviews/5f59878902e8570becb241c4> Sportsbet took
over beteasy

Sportsbet took over beteasy, so I download the app, Placed 2 bets on the
doggies, trifecta and first 4 same race, received the payout for the
trifecta but not the first 4, both say "won", numbers were right, chat
messaged them, Georgia first tells me I never boxed the bet (which clearly
was) then tells me the winnings didn't cover the bet, then get told it
wasn't a multi bet ... So 1.5 hours later getting passed around. Rip offs,
enjoy the Xmas pissup at my expense, photos uploading to media as I write
this review.

 <https://au.trustpilot.com/reviews/5eec3cc87dd7530324704683> I joined 2
weeks ago and I have since.

I joined 2 weeks ago and I have since LOST $820.00 to Sportsbet - so they
are well in front. I only bet $1550.00 so a 50% loss in significant.

Sportsbet now tell me I have been cutoff from future promotions AND CANNOT
TELL ME WHY - they say the matter is out of their hands.

Despite my very concerned protestations nobody on their so called CUSTOMER
SERVICE line was able to help - I was told that other parties had made that
decision !!

DO NOT TRUST SPORTSBET

I am rightly annoyed and AT LEAST worthy of some respect in relation

 <https://au.trustpilot.com/reviews/5e9be0b9086b6409bc87e59a> I placed a
fixed price bet on Lanken.

I placed a fixed price bet on Lanken Star at 44 to 1 Caulfield on the
15/04/2020. $2200.00 result.
On the 18/04/2020 there were four scratchings. I took a screen shot of the
scratchings, no deductions
I also checked Beteasy, TAB, and Ladbrokes they also notified no deductions
I also had two friends place a bet on Lanken Star with Ladbrokes and Betesy
at fixed odds, there were no deductions taken from there bet.
I contacted SPORTSBET to ask why they deducted $550.00 from my bet when
there were no deductions notified after the scratchings on saturday their
reply was sorry the deductions stand.
Sportsbet are not a reputable company to bet with, when they moved the go

 <https://au.trustpilot.com/reviews/5e6df8453c93ae091808275d> Joke
company.They advertise "a punter.

Joke company.They advertise "a punter had $10,000" on a horse or footy game
yet you try and have a couple of hundred and they take a partial bet of $30
or so .Full of rubbish! Overseas BS artist.

 <https://au.trustpilot.com/reviews/5e59fbfc3c93ae0bc40ca395> SportsBet is a
literal SCAM

SportsBet is a literal SCAM. They will adjust the descriptions of bets after
you have placed them and they will manipulate the results of bets against
documented factual outcomes in order to resolve a bet in their favour.

Customer support is arrogant and couldn't care less about retaining your
business. One of the worst SCAM companies I've ever seen.

 <https://au.trustpilot.com/users/5def4da41ef7dca7afdc5b17> 

 <https://au.trustpilot.com/users/5e59fae6878feef7a4caadcd> 

 <https://au.trustpilot.com/users/5ee35358e0be995f5f77a095> 

 <https://au.trustpilot.com/users/5f5c40b1397ac29c5ac93d5f> 

From: Racing <racing-bounces at ausrace.com <mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com>
> On Behalf Of L.B.Loveday
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 9:04 AM
To: racing at ausrace.com <mailto:racing at ausrace.com> 
Subject: Re: [AusRace] Classic Bet

Quote:  New players or not they are ALL tarred with the same brush.....

Comment on this Ken?

-----Original Message-----
From: ausrace-bounces at ausrace.com <mailto:ausrace-bounces at ausrace.com>  On
Behalf Of Ken Blake
Sent: Friday, 4 September 2015 9:27 AM
To: ausrace at ausrace.com <mailto:ausrace at ausrace.com> 
Subject: [AusRace] Classic Bet

Len.......You are an A grade Masochist.....why do you torture yourself with
these ongoing interactions with the corporate sector.

New players or not they are ALL tarred with the same brush.....

You summed it up perfectly " Gutless, incompetent, dishonest - they should
preface their advertisements with "We welcome compulsive gamblers,
desperates trying to gamble their way out of poverty, and those with mental
illnesses. 

If there is a chance you may win, don't waste your time; we won't accept
your business.

There is an on course / online bookmaker here in W.A. .....PUNTA

They display liabilities of each runner at the that particular price in
'amount available' similar to Betfair......

>From their website: Unlike your typical online bookmaker, we're listening.

We want to know the price you're after for the bet you want.

Punters betting with PUNTA Bookmaking have the ability to request a price
for any given runner on a featured meeting. All requests are considered,
whilst reasonably sized and priced bets are more likely to be approved. For
example; $100 at the requested price of $7 rather, than at the displayed
price of $6.50.

PUNTA also displays the 'amount available' at the price on offer. This aims
to reduce frustration in being transparent on how much is able to be bet up
front. Once the amount on offer has been consumed, the price on offer will
reduce and the limits will be reset.

Bets at the displayed price and within normal betting limits will
automatically be approved.

If you have any questions regarding the operation of any of the above,

So it doesn't matter if you've won thousands for weeks on end there is no
account closure here.......you can bet what is available.

....this is a step in the right direction and if somebody had any balls in
the administrative side of wagering they would make this mandatory across
the wagering sector.

.....under the current umbrella the Corporate sector is a  wagering industry
cancer.

Unfortunately PUNTA only operates on local W.A racing.              

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