[AusRace] Everywhere Winona

Tue Jan 15 13:30:29 AEDT 2019

The year of that statement, at over 70 years ago, was indicative of how
little even an academic thought of her sex. It was a gross over statement.
There were many women in years before 1946 who did what was needed to
further themselves using guts and perspiration. Great work by Marjorie in
obtaining a Phd in those days and she would be a prime example of the type
of woman I am suggesting. However, as we see all too clearly these days
having a Phd means zippo if all you do is talk nonsense and don't have
commonsense.

Women have wives these days in de facto lesbian relationships or in married
circumstances yet women  are under represented in most fields. If Marjorie
was correct many of the current "married" women would be starring as leaders
of the community but they are not. The big question is "Why is it so? "
(Professor Julius Sumner Miller). The answer is simple: they don't want to
be leaders. There is almost nothing stopping any woman achieving enormous
community status as all the tools of education and support are available.

Btw, don't think I am some sort of sexist male as I have three daughters who
are outstanding individuals. That did not happen by receiving their awards
at university and spouting nonsense: it came from pushing themselves beyond
various comfort zones.

Roman Koz

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From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of L.B.Loveday
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 8:31 AM
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"The fundamental reason that women do not achieve so greatly as men do is
that women have no wives. Until such a time as science or economics correct
this blunder of nature, we shall, I fear, remain the inferior sex".

Professor Marjorie Nicolson, PhD, of Columbia University, September 1946.

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Sent: Monday, 14 January 2019 2:51 PM
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Gee Len that's the longest string on any bow I have ever seen.
  We have to assume your comments are based on some personal happenings and
you are therefore extrapolating!!!
I will admit behind every good man there's a good woman, as I am told almost
daily, (must mean I am a good man) but this was not the case with JC in the
mathematical sense. If Ken B is reading this there was a saying from our
group of desperates, he will verify,  that Rider X had more runs of outs
than Jimmy Courtney!! I cannot remember the figure of outs exactly but it
was indicative of a guy who rode few winners in town.
Roman

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An alternative possibility - JC was joint top apprentice with HWhite,
success went to his head (hello Ms Payne) then got a bit wild/distracted and
that showed in his riding. Would hardly be the first young man to so do.

He then got engaged, then married, "saw the light", settled down and became
a top jockey. Again, would hardly be the first young man to have the
responsibility of marriage return his nose to the grindstone.

LBL  

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Hi all,
I am with Lindsay. Over the years (make that decades) have seen many
instances of the jockey dropping off the radar if a trainer or trainer drops
them and vice versa. It's really the trainers job to match the horse with an
appropriate jockey, if they have half a brain, if possible. I still cannot
get out of my mind a jockey called Jim Courtney. I think he married into the
CS Hayes family but one year he rode 3 winners in Melbourne and the
following year was the top rider in Adelaide. Rides from CS Hayes, for sure,
made the difference. You could argue the SA jockeys weren't that flash but
that would be nonsense simply because JC by his wins in Vic must have fitted
into the mediocre jockey list.
Roman

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Hi Tony,
Just my opinion, but the trainers seem more important than the jockeys, if
one looks at the top jockeys, they are riding for the top stables.
If the stable is on fire, makes the jockeys look good and the same can be
said when the stable is struggling (even top stables) due to a myriad of
reasons .
Lindsay

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From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of Tony Moffat
Sent: Sunday, 13 January 2019 11:22 AM
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Subject: [AusRace] Everywhere Winona

Winona Costin has been busy, in Tasmania for a couple of days recently and
today in NZ, yesterday Kembla (if it was running), and tomorrow in Nowra

She has been on a few by Gai, with success also.

I don't factor in jockeys but do rate them and she is average, which isn't a
bad place, as so many are not when scored off their endeavours which is
directly tied to their mounts I know.

Cheers

Tony

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