[AusRace] Everywhere Winona

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Aha, well that's all changed. I give you the member for Wentworth.

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 8:31 AM L.B.Loveday <lloveday at ozemail.com.au> wrote:

> "The fundamental reason that women do not achieve so greatly as men do is
> that women have no wives. Until such a time as science or economics correct
> this blunder of nature, we shall, I fear, remain the inferior sex".
>
> Professor Marjorie Nicolson, PhD, of Columbia University, September 1946.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Racing <racing-bounces at ausrace.com> On Behalf Of Roman
> Sent: Monday, 14 January 2019 2:51 PM
> To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com>
> Subject: Re: [AusRace] Everywhere Winona
>
> Gee Len that's the longest string on any bow I have ever seen.
>   We have to assume your comments are based on some personal happenings and
> you are therefore extrapolating!!!
> I will admit behind every good man there's a good woman, as I am told
> almost
> daily, (must mean I am a good man) but this was not the case with JC in the
> mathematical sense. If Ken B is reading this there was a saying from our
> group of desperates, he will verify,  that Rider X had more runs of outs
> than Jimmy Courtney!! I cannot remember the figure of outs exactly but it
> was indicative of a guy who rode few winners in town.
> Roman
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of L.B.Loveday
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 1:40 PM
> To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List'
> Subject: Re: [AusRace] Everywhere Winona
>
> An alternative possibility - JC was joint top apprentice with HWhite,
> success went to his head (hello Ms Payne) then got a bit wild/distracted
> and
> that showed in his riding. Would hardly be the first young man to so do.
>
> He then got engaged, then married, "saw the light", settled down and became
> a top jockey. Again, would hardly be the first young man to have the
> responsibility of marriage return his nose to the grindstone.
>
> LBL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Racing <racing-bounces at ausrace.com> On Behalf Of Roman
> Sent: Monday, 14 January 2019 8:18 AM
> To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com>
> Subject: Re: [AusRace] Everywhere Winona
>
> Hi all,
> I am with Lindsay. Over the years (make that decades) have seen many
> instances of the jockey dropping off the radar if a trainer or trainer
> drops
> them and vice versa. It's really the trainers job to match the horse with
> an
> appropriate jockey, if they have half a brain, if possible. I still cannot
> get out of my mind a jockey called Jim Courtney. I think he married into
> the
> CS Hayes family but one year he rode 3 winners in Melbourne and the
> following year was the top rider in Adelaide. Rides from CS Hayes, for
> sure,
> made the difference. You could argue the SA jockeys weren't that flash but
> that would be nonsense simply because JC by his wins in Vic must have
> fitted
> into the mediocre jockey list.
> Roman
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of Race Stats
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 1:47 AM
> To: AusRace Racing Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [AusRace] Everywhere Winona
>
> Hi Tony,
> Just my opinion, but the trainers seem more important than the jockeys, if
> one looks at the top jockeys, they are riding for the top stables.
> If the stable is on fire, makes the jockeys look good and the same can be
> said when the stable is struggling (even top stables) due to a myriad of
> reasons .
> Lindsay
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of Tony Moffat
> Sent: Sunday, 13 January 2019 11:22 AM
> To: racing at ausrace.com
> Subject: [AusRace] Everywhere Winona
>
> Winona Costin has been busy, in Tasmania for a couple of days recently and
> today in NZ, yesterday Kembla (if it was running), and tomorrow in Nowra
>
> She has been on a few by Gai, with success also.
>
> I don't factor in jockeys but do rate them and she is average, which isn't
> a
> bad place, as so many are not when scored off their endeavours which is
> directly tied to their mounts I know.
>
> Cheers
>
> Tony
>
>
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