[AusRace] Everywhere Winona

L.B.Loveday lloveday at ozemail.com.au
Tue Jan 15 13:42:04 AEDT 2019


Q&D analysis:

Took just last 8 years data, "top" jockeys as those Oz-based who rode in the
2018 MC -

CWBrown        
JChilds       
BMelham       
TAngland     
JBowman      
GSchofield    
JMcDonald    
TBerry       
DOliver      
PMoloney     
MZahra       
MJWalker     
RBayliss     
DDunn        
DLane        
SBaster      
CraigWilliam  
KMcEvoy   

and "top" trainers as:

Cummings
Ellerton
Hawkes
Hayes
Moroney
O'Shea
Smerdon
Snowden
Waller
Waterhouse
Weir


"Top" Jockey riding for "Top" Trainer:

  N   27685  Win  4427 0.1599   Ret @SP  0.8279   Ret @ 100% Normalised SP
1.0105

"Top" Jockey riding for Non-"Top" Trainer:

  N   48751  Win  5722 0.1174   Ret @SP  0.7813   Ret @ 100% Normalised SP
1.0689

Win% from a betting point of view is irrelevant separated from price/odds,
and because of the "long-shot effect", I use Normalised SP rather than SP
for my ratings.


-----Original Message-----
From: Racing <racing-bounces at ausrace.com> On Behalf Of Roman
Sent: Monday, 14 January 2019 8:18 AM
To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com>
Subject: Re: [AusRace] Everywhere Winona

Hi all,
I am with Lindsay. Over the years (make that decades) have seen many
instances of the jockey dropping off the radar if a trainer or trainer drops
them and vice versa. It's really the trainers job to match the horse with an
appropriate jockey, if they have half a brain, if possible. I still cannot
get out of my mind a jockey called Jim Courtney. I think he married into the
CS Hayes family but one year he rode 3 winners in Melbourne and the
following year was the top rider in Adelaide. Rides from CS Hayes, for sure,
made the difference. You could argue the SA jockeys weren't that flash but
that would be nonsense simply because JC by his wins in Vic must have fitted
into the mediocre jockey list.
Roman

-----Original Message-----
From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of Race Stats
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 1:47 AM
To: AusRace Racing Discussion List
Subject: Re: [AusRace] Everywhere Winona

Hi Tony,
Just my opinion, but the trainers seem more important than the jockeys, if
one looks at the top jockeys, they are riding for the top stables.
If the stable is on fire, makes the jockeys look good and the same can be
said when the stable is struggling (even top stables) due to a myriad of
reasons .
Lindsay

-----Original Message-----
From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of Tony Moffat
Sent: Sunday, 13 January 2019 11:22 AM
To: racing at ausrace.com
Subject: [AusRace] Everywhere Winona

Winona Costin has been busy, in Tasmania for a couple of days recently and
today in NZ, yesterday Kembla (if it was running), and tomorrow in Nowra

She has been on a few by Gai, with success also.

I don't factor in jockeys but do rate them and she is average, which isn't a
bad place, as so many are not when scored off their endeavours which is
directly tied to their mounts I know.

Cheers

Tony


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