[AusRace] They never let up re crops, do they?

L.B.Loveday lloveday at ozemail.com.au
Tue Dec 4 20:24:49 AEDT 2018



The "silly old bugger" comment was made a long time ago - it's 41 years since Desirable won the Newmarket, and Robbie's (I no longer know whether it was Robertson or Robinson - Jones is much easier to remember!) son was already an adult. Apart from the fact he stood still and got run over, he got done over by the ATO for back taxes on his winnings (as have ZR and Walsh in well-published recent cases). Problem was he'd made a property settlement with his wife and the ATO said he and only he was liable for the tax, despite her share being from punting winnings; unfair I reckon!


Some people are good at making money, some at managing, some at both, some at neither; they say Don Scott died broke, that Terry Page retired from bookmaking only 3 years after shifting to the Gold Coast, due to stress caused by losing, and A.A. (Tony) Hains , RIP (2015) who you'll remember, was declared bankrupt….. But what great lives they had (imo).


I'll be working until the day I die I figure (after all I'm on formal wife #4 and none have ever done paid work). The author of one of the books I've proof-read (that's as close as I'll go to writing one Nick) said when I professed a dread of having a non-fatal stroke "Huh, you! You'd be still there punching the keyboard with your nose". 


I've never had much interest in racing per se - don't watch many, know less about horses/jockeys/tracks than the average front bar punter, don't even know the sex of many jockeys as in most cases my database records them as eg NBeriman (but MichelPayne because there are more than one MPayne - by the way she's shot up lately, but is still in the bottom 15% by my ratings since Weir won the MC). Years ago I said to an erstwhile Ausracer that NBeriman had improved :his rating". "Her" he corrected me. 




From: PhilM <punter at internode.on.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, 4 December 2018 6:55 PM
To: racing at ausrace.com
Subject: Re: They never let up re crops, do they?


"You'll remember Bob Robinson, the IBM salesman who had access to and used a computer before they were commonly available, and was so successful he had a crowd following him to copy his bets (you still here Phil?)"


Yes Len, I haven't gone away just yet.... and quite correct, I was one of the most avid followers of "Mr Magic", Shirley and Co. .....to the point he referred to me as "bindi eyes" ;-) Like you, I changed betting strategies over the years many times, from following Robertson, following the Manuel bros; getting massive overs using teletext when interstate TAB's put up approximates, betting trebles and quadrellas for years based on early TAB odds just by comparing paper prices, then Betfair gave me the biggest lift possible in 2001 with some amazing returns in the first few years, flipping from place betting, to taking any overs bookies gave as compared to Betfair, moving from British racing, to Aussie racing as bookies closed down accounts, to correct score and 1st half/2nd half soccer odds for years until TABCorp finally woke up they were giving money away, then back to Aussie racing again. It finally got to the point that the hours worked were not worth the returns gained. I guess I stood still and got run over! I've had one bet in six months, the winner of the Melbourne Cup and have pretty much lost all interest if I can no longer make a decent dollar. Happy on the aged pension now with enough funds to tide me over and a wife that's more than happy as my "carer".


If you are still going well Len, then you've likely outdone every gambler out there! Congratulations!


Phil M


p.s. Sounds as if Bob Robertson (Robinson?) has fallen a long way to be called a "silly old bugger" by some bookie, betting $5 e/w! Seriously?



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