[AusRace] Aged runner ARMONA - was Crafty Cruiser

Thu Nov 15 15:53:00 AEDT 2018

Another 11 yo still running well. I predict it will lead and if can get cheap sectionals could lead all the way. Massive odds at 71 and 16 the place but did win 2 years ago as a 9 yo at 100/1AN OLDIE BUT A GOODIE  … 11 Armona 11yo g (Racha_Cuneen) Thu 15-Nov-18 (ADST) 17:00 Seymour R8 at 07:37 AM odds 71 ... #GoodBetterBetANSent on the go with Vodafone
-------- Original message --------From: "L.B.Loveday" <lloveday at ozemail.com.au> Date: 11/11/18  9:01 am  (GMT+10:00) To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com> Subject: Re: [AusRace] Aged runners - was Crafty Cruiser Tony, maybe like so many humans, horses are aging better. My 70 yo sisterstill plays basketball 3 nights a week - not Masters, although she doescompete in their games, but in open competition, with teenagers and 20s; notA grade any more, but even D grade teenagers are tough competition for agreat-grannie-to be.-----Original Message-----From: Racing <racing-bounces at ausrace.com> On Behalf Of Tony MoffatSent: Saturday, 10 November 2018 2:06 PMTo: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com>Subject: Re: [AusRace] Aged runners - was Crafty CruiserLen - there are a raft of older runners (63) accepted for racing today(10/11) including a 12 year old at Geelong(scr. now).There is a competitive race at Moranbah (yes, there) were the 10 yo ispriced at $2.20 A nine year old Alpine Dragon is racing at Newcastle(pronounced Noo-cassel by the girl on the internet radio) and trained by thevery horse name orientated Colt Prosser.Tabulam has racing today with several 'oldies' contesting. There is a signin the town that announces it is half way between the surf and Texas!So with a count of 63 in a days racing seems to confirm your observation,there is a lot of the aged brigade still running, and running quite well ifyou review their last four starts.CheersTony-----Original Message-----From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of L.B.LovedaySent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 3:37 AMTo: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com>Subject: Re: [AusRace] Crafty CruiserLast year, 2017, there were 196 11yo runs, for 3 wins. 1296 runners for 5 wins sounds very wrong - that would make them incrediblelays.Risa must ignore many races for their calculations that TRB includes - TRBprovide results of races big and small - 41 meetings on MC day.I make it 9851 runners 8yo or older for 679 winners in 2017, a vastdiscrepancy from 1296/5. At Mainland Metro alone I make it 1270 for 60winners.As always, statistics are only as accurate as my data bases and myprogramming! -----Original Message-----From: Racing <racing-bounces at ausrace.com> On Behalf Of Tony MoffatSent: Friday, 9 November 2018 10:45 PMTo: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com>Subject: Re: [AusRace] Crafty CruiserHi Lenhttp://publishingservices.risa.com.au/otherpublications/Factbook%202016-2017/83/#zoom=zI got my data here - capped at 2017 season though.It seems there were 1296 runners aged 8yo+ and they won 5 races.The year before there were more runners for 3 successes.These  are wins. Sometimes, presumably , they run, not for first, or anyplace but for the runner prize which can be $2400 just for going around,nice work if you can get it, and that $2.4K buys a whack of hay, I know.I reckon we could be justified in ignoring them somewhat, the aged.I missed the race tonight - gardening.CheersTony-----Original Message-----From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of L.B.LovedaySent: Friday, November 9, 2018 6:10 PMTo: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com>Subject: Re: [AusRace] Crafty CruiserTony,Quite a year for 11yos - 48 unique 11yos have run according to myTRB-supplied database, being the most in any calendar year since andincluding 1995 and there are weeks to go. They have contested 255 races for15 wins (after CC today, 256; there was another 11yo in the same race,Knucklemanna, but it was scratched), returning $105 at $1 SP - pretty easyto see why I give them a big negative.LBL-----Original Message-----From: Racing <racing-bounces at ausrace.com> On Behalf Of Tony MoffatSent: Friday, 9 November 2018 7:12 PMTo: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com>Subject: [AusRace] Crafty CruiserCrafty CruiserCranbourne Race 4 tonight 2000 hours local It seems this greybeard has beenwith us at the races for years - essentially it has been.He runs tonight for his 141 start and is 11 years old and ridden by CoreyParish, him with that flamboyant whipping action of his. Sadly CC does not seem to figure in any sums for the race, neither thetipsters nor the form, weight, money schemes or workouts can promote him tothe fore, not even fourth or fifth or sixth in some rankings.The old boy has average earnt $5000 each time he has fronted and remainsfit, and healthy it  seems, and always seems keen and alert and wellmannered. He must have a licence to race because I thought they werestopping them at 9 years old, the comfort clause, unless there were specialreasons for it to run on.I think 141 starts is a good point to stop now. There is an apprehension noweach time he goes round, did he get in okay, well that's what I feel anyway.The form seems to be with 6,3,4, and 8.The before and now money choices might be 5,6,3, and two and there are lotsof touches for him on the corporate sites, three I use have him writtenup(flucs) 44 times - I'm not sure that is an accurate indicator, foranything actually, except for the clerk who is trying to entice some moneyfor it.For what it's worth I hope he wins, then retires - there is a paddock hereif needs be, he can share with the Bonnar brothers, Scott and Victa, therams.CheersTony---This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.https://www.avg.com_______________________________________________Racing mailing listRacing at ausrace.comhttp://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com_______________________________________________Racing mailing listRacing at ausrace.comhttp://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com_______________________________________________Racing mailing listRacing at ausrace.comhttp://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com_______________________________________________Racing mailing listRacing at ausrace.comhttp://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com_______________________________________________Racing mailing listRacing at ausrace.comhttp://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com_______________________________________________Racing mailing listRacing at ausrace.comhttp://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com
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