<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body><div>Another 11 yo still running well. I predict it will lead and if can get cheap sectionals could lead all the way. Massive odds at 71 and 16 the place but did win 2 years ago as a 9 yo at 100/1</div><div><br></div><div>AN OLDIE BUT A GOODIE … 11 Armona 11yo g (Racha_Cuneen) Thu 15-Nov-18 (ADST) 17:00 Seymour R8 at 07:37 AM odds 71 ... #GoodBetterBet</div><div><br></div><div>AN</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div id="composer_signature"><div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757" dir="auto">Sent on the go with Vodafone</div></div><div><br></div><div style="font-size:100%;color:#000000"><!-- originalMessage --><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: "L.B.Loveday" <lloveday@ozemail.com.au> </div><div>Date: 11/11/18 9:01 am (GMT+10:00) </div><div>To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing@ausrace.com> </div><div>Subject: Re: [AusRace] Aged runners - was Crafty Cruiser </div><div><br></div></div>Tony, maybe like so many humans, horses are aging better. My 70 yo sister<br>still plays basketball 3 nights a week - not Masters, although she does<br>compete in their games, but in open competition, with teenagers and 20s; not<br>A grade any more, but even D grade teenagers are tough competition for a<br>great-grannie-to be.<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Racing <racing-bounces@ausrace.com> On Behalf Of Tony Moffat<br>Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2018 2:06 PM<br>To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing@ausrace.com><br>Subject: Re: [AusRace] Aged runners - was Crafty Cruiser<br><br>Len - there are a raft of older runners (63) accepted for racing today<br>(10/11) including a 12 year old at Geelong(scr. now).<br>There is a competitive race at Moranbah (yes, there) were the 10 yo is<br>priced at $2.20 A nine year old Alpine Dragon is racing at Newcastle<br>(pronounced Noo-cassel by the girl on the internet radio) and trained by the<br>very horse name orientated Colt Prosser.<br><br>Tabulam has racing today with several 'oldies' contesting. There is a sign<br>in the town that announces it is half way between the surf and Texas!<br><br>So with a count of 63 in a days racing seems to confirm your observation,<br>there is a lot of the aged brigade still running, and running quite well if<br>you review their last four starts.<br><br>Cheers<br><br>Tony<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces@ausrace.com] On Behalf Of L.B.Loveday<br>Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 3:37 AM<br>To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing@ausrace.com><br>Subject: Re: [AusRace] Crafty Cruiser<br><br>Last year, 2017, there were 196 11yo runs, for 3 wins. <br><br><br>1296 runners for 5 wins sounds very wrong - that would make them incredible<br>lays.<br><br>Risa must ignore many races for their calculations that TRB includes - TRB<br>provide results of races big and small - 41 meetings on MC day.<br><br>I make it 9851 runners 8yo or older for 679 winners in 2017, a vast<br>discrepancy from 1296/5. At Mainland Metro alone I make it 1270 for 60<br>winners.<br><br>As always, statistics are only as accurate as my data bases and my<br>programming!<br><br> <br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Racing <racing-bounces@ausrace.com> On Behalf Of Tony Moffat<br>Sent: Friday, 9 November 2018 10:45 PM<br>To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing@ausrace.com><br>Subject: Re: [AusRace] Crafty Cruiser<br><br>Hi Len<br>http://publishingservices.risa.com.au/otherpublications/Factbook%202016-2017<br>/83/#zoom=z<br>I got my data here - capped at 2017 season though.<br>It seems there were 1296 runners aged 8yo+ and they won 5 races.<br>The year before there were more runners for 3 successes.<br>These are wins. Sometimes, presumably , they run, not for first, or any<br>place but for the runner prize which can be $2400 just for going around,<br>nice work if you can get it, and that $2.4K buys a whack of hay, I know.<br><br>I reckon we could be justified in ignoring them somewhat, the aged.<br><br>I missed the race tonight - gardening.<br><br>Cheers<br><br>Tony<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces@ausrace.com] On Behalf Of L.B.Loveday<br>Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 6:10 PM<br>To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing@ausrace.com><br>Subject: Re: [AusRace] Crafty Cruiser<br><br>Tony,<br><br>Quite a year for 11yos - 48 unique 11yos have run according to my<br>TRB-supplied database, being the most in any calendar year since and<br>including 1995 and there are weeks to go. They have contested 255 races for<br>15 wins (after CC today, 256; there was another 11yo in the same race,<br>Knucklemanna, but it was scratched), returning $105 at $1 SP - pretty easy<br>to see why I give them a big negative.<br><br>LBL<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Racing <racing-bounces@ausrace.com> On Behalf Of Tony Moffat<br>Sent: Friday, 9 November 2018 7:12 PM<br>To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing@ausrace.com><br>Subject: [AusRace] Crafty Cruiser<br><br>Crafty Cruiser<br>Cranbourne Race 4 tonight 2000 hours local It seems this greybeard has been<br>with us at the races for years - essentially it has been.<br>He runs tonight for his 141 start and is 11 years old and ridden by Corey<br>Parish, him with that flamboyant whipping action of his. <br>Sadly CC does not seem to figure in any sums for the race, neither the<br>tipsters nor the form, weight, money schemes or workouts can promote him to<br>the fore, not even fourth or fifth or sixth in some rankings.<br>The old boy has average earnt $5000 each time he has fronted and remains<br>fit, and healthy it seems, and always seems keen and alert and well<br>mannered. He must have a licence to race because I thought they were<br>stopping them at 9 years old, the comfort clause, unless there were special<br>reasons for it to run on.<br>I think 141 starts is a good point to stop now. There is an apprehension now<br>each time he goes round, did he get in okay, well that's what I feel any<br>way.<br>The form seems to be with 6,3,4, and 8.<br>The before and now money choices might be 5,6,3, and two and there are lots<br>of touches for him on the corporate sites, three I use have him written<br>up(flucs) 44 times - I'm not sure that is an accurate indicator, for<br>anything actually, except for the clerk who is trying to entice some money<br>for it.<br>For what it's worth I hope he wins, then retires - there is a paddock here<br>if needs be, he can share with the Bonnar brothers, Scott and Victa, the<br>rams.<br>Cheers<br>Tony<br><br><br>---<br>This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.<br>https://www.avg.com<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Racing mailing list<br>Racing@ausrace.com<br>http://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Racing mailing list<br>Racing@ausrace.com<br>http://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Racing mailing list<br>Racing@ausrace.com<br>http://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Racing mailing list<br>Racing@ausrace.com<br>http://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Racing mailing list<br>Racing@ausrace.com<br>http://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Racing mailing list<br>Racing@ausrace.com<br>http://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com<br><br></body></html>