[AusRace] Is this fair?

[norsaintpublishing at gmail.com]

Interesting John. My example is a small sample size of course and it may be
down to stiff luck but a couple were in the over $10 range, namely Voodoo
Lad, who was trading around $17 until the last five minutes and then SPd at
nearer $12 and something else on Sandown Cup day which halved  in price
very late. Bloody painful!

On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 5:31 PM <info at rbratings.com.au> wrote:

> From my brief studies, BFSP works best at the longer end of the market.
> And by that I mean $10+.
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> For those under $10 then you get better value from other products, like
> best tote or top fluc.
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> Then the problem becomes liquidity. You simply cannot have $200 at BFSP on
> a $50+ chance and not expect it to effect the odds (in average metro racing
> in Aus, the UK is different), it does. It also depends on when you place
> your BFSP bet. If you get in early then you are effectively signalling to
> everyone else your intentions, as the bet can be seen by all and sundry.
> The bots are watching this and adjusting the market, usually to your
> detriment.  For the most part the bots trade at the shorter end of the
> market, this is simply because at longer odds the market is more volatile
> and with that comes risk. Shorter priced selections have more liquidity,
> less volatility and more chance for the bot to recover from a market swing.
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> John
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> *From:* Racing <racing-bounces at ausrace.com> *On Behalf Of *
> mikemcbain at tpg.com.au
> *Sent:* Monday, 10 December 2018 1:54 PM
> *To:* 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AusRace] Is this fair?
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> Norsaint
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> Here is a recent Statement where the Your Odds were prices taken inside
> the last 60 secs of Betting.
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> Some of my earlier work indicated the best price of all may be at 30
> seconds to the jump?
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> Mike.
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> *From:* Racing <racing-bounces at ausrace.com> *On Behalf Of *
> norsaintpublishing at gmail.com
> *Sent:* Monday, 10 December 2018 13:23
> *To:* AusRace Racing Discussion List <racing at ausrace.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AusRace] Is this fair?
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> Yes, thanks Len, a good warning.
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> Does anyone have any opinions on taking Betfair SP? I started using it
> recently and have cost myself  a bit by not taking an offered price.
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> It appears that Betfair SP is better than the tote and my exchange prices
> on the losers,  but down a bit when they win. Very annoying.
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> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 10:04 AM <mikemcbain at tpg.com.au> wrote:
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> Len
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> Screen arrived perfectly  in my email and yes I experienced the same thing
> yesterday and yes only after I was caught!
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> Mike.
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> *From:* Racing <racing-bounces at ausrace.com> *On Behalf Of *L.B.Loveday
> *Sent:* Monday, 10 December 2018 09:18
> *To:* 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com>
> *Subject:* [AusRace] Is this fair?
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> I don't know if these screen shots will be readable in Ausrace (they were
> in my test sending to myself), but the first shows a price for #12,
> Frosty Olaf of 251/26,. I clicked and filled in $50/100 (no prices shown on
> the ticket). Then clicked Place Bet and the following appeared.
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> Yes it does show that the price I would take by clicking "Confirm" is
> 126/14, BUT the odds displayed in the book are still 251/26, and still were
> when I looked again 5 minutes later. Would some at least just click
> without noticing the discrepancy? OF COURSE.
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> [image: cid:image001.png at 01D4906F.B97E78B0]
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> In the next case, #7 was scratched  at 7:38 according to Sportingbet.com
> (remember when Sportsbet also used to show scratching time so you could
> check deductions? No longer)
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> At 8:32 I clicked on #8, and it appeared in the ticket, but as above
> without prices, but still showing $2.50 place in the book.
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> [image: cid:image002.png at 01D4906F.B97E78B0]
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> But the ticket fills at $1.70 with $2.50 still showing in the book, and it
> was still showing $2.50 4 minutes later.
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> [image: cid:image003.png at 01D4906F.B97E78B0]
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> VERY caveat emptor, as I have warned - yes I picked up the scam, but would
> everyone, every time?
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