<div dir="ltr">i have it as scratched.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 3:52 AM L.B.Loveday <<a href="mailto:lloveday@ozemail.com.au">lloveday@ozemail.com.au</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-AU"><div class="gmail-m_7622604274139456734WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Then yesterday, Hobart 6/8 Our Artie, definitely ran - I've seen the replay, but given as a scratching on TasRacing's web-site, and on WATAB, albeit with tote prices displayed, but not on TAB's site which displays Fixed and tote prices.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Weighed in light? Have to wait for the Steward's report for that one. Or Mike McBain.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Racing <b>On Behalf Of </b>L.B.Loveday<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 5 October 2020 4:16 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <<a href="mailto:racing@ausrace.com" target="_blank">racing@ausrace.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusRace] Data Bases<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Then there are the SP markets, which in about 0.6% of times are <100% because of barrier scratchings, and in many other cases low 100s, not reflecting the real SP after deductions, but are still used by touts to promote their systems. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">I calculate a normalised 100% market for every race, not by the simple method of dividing each price by the market%*100, but taking into account the "long shot effect" and use that as the basis for comparing returns.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Using on-line bookmakers prices is also fraught.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Here's the final prices as per Dynamic Odds from a number of bookmakers on Race 7 at the Sunshine Coast 27/9/2020:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><img width="824" height="525" style="width: 8.5833in; height: 5.4687in;" id="gmail-m_7622604274139456734Picture_x0020_3" src="cid:174f533a69b4cff311"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">The discrepancy between the BBet and the others is obvious from the first 2 favourites, #2 and #6:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">However, the SPs are right, so the SOPs have been determined considering actual final prices from the (10?) designated bookmakers and the formula used to determine SOP.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Why is BBet the only one right? I can't know, but there were 21 races that day so impacted, the others were ok.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">And so on; Life was not meant to be easy, and is not easy for punters.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Racing <b>On Behalf Of </b>sean mclaren<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 4 October 2020 10:43 AM<br><b>To:</b> AusRace Racing Discussion List <<a href="mailto:racing@ausrace.com" target="_blank">racing@ausrace.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusRace] Data Bases<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Len, go to hong kong.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">the top weight gets scratched.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">the emergency no 13, gets a run; and in HK it's TAB number now has changed to no 1.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">when the emergency wins, and as it is now no. 1.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">my data provider credits the scratched horse as the winner !<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">cleaning data the bane of my life. <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">cheers sean<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Oct 4, 2020 at 2:15 AM L.B.Loveday <<a href="mailto:lloveday@ozemail.com.au" target="_blank">lloveday@ozemail.com.au</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin:5pt 0cm 5pt 4.8pt"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">An example of how hard it is to keep data bases accurate:</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">The results for Yeppoon Race 5, October 1 on Racing Queensland's web-site show:</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">2 Presley Road</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">T: Damien Rideout</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">J: Matthew McGillivray</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">6 Blame It On Paris</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">T: Zoe Hohn</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">J: Emma Bell</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">While the Stewards' report shows:</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Summary of rider changes/Late notifications</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Race 5. PRESLEY ROAD – M McGillivray</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> BLAME IT ON PARIS – Z White</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">This is far from a rare occurrence! I don't even bother trying to keep trainers accurate - they have Gai running horses at:</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Adelaide River,</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Atherton,</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Barraba,</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Bluff,</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Bundarra,</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Buchan</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">And that's just the A and B's. Maybe she did, I can't know, but I don't trust the data I have.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">LBL</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br>Racing mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Racing@ausrace.com" target="_blank">Racing@ausrace.com</a><br><a href="http://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com" target="_blank">http://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com</a><u></u><u></u></p></blockquote></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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