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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Don't you just love "sorry" and "unfortunately" in my case and "thank you" and "</span> wish you the best " <span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>in your case? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>VicBet and Bet365 are the only two I have accounts with that stick rigidly with MBL, SportsBet stick rigidly to 1000/500 (2000/800 Metro) but 24/7, the others are all over the place, but PlayUp are the worst (as befits being a re-badged ClassicBet - withdrawals still come through "</span> <span class=merchant>Direct Credit nnnnnnn ClassicBet".<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=merchant><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=merchant>LBL</span><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Racing <b>On Behalf Of </b>ANDREW RICHMAN<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 13 June 2020 8:57 AM<br><b>To:</b> AusRace Racing Discussion List <racing@ausrace.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusRace] Another mob of wimps - Vicbet<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Well being up front is better than 3 minutes of 'think music' and then after the race jumps cancelling bets 'price changed' like my experience at the end although he had asked me to close my account a few times before that started.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>At my peak in 2008 I had 87 bookmakers accounts (from Africa to The Carribean - the long way) for sport/horses that have dwindled to just Betfair and TopSport now.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>In 2017 after losing so many accounts and when supposed rails bookmakers were pulling dirty tricks we retired from betting and stick to the financial markets now where the playing field is much fairer.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>At 2% POT on sport at our peak most of the edge was getting good prices and with way less to choose from it became too risky that bad runs might not recover.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>My favourite letter (below) was from across the ditch from the NZ TAB. No deposit limits, bet limits etc. just cut off immediately. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Andrew<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Dear Andrew,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>Closure of Your TAB Account</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>After <span lang=EN-NZ>recently reviewing your account </span>a commercial decision has been made to close your account due to the unsustainable nature of your business.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The closure of your account will take effect from 19 July 2013. From this date onwards you will no longer be able to use your account <span class=gmaildefault><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>******</span></span> to place bets through <a href="http://www.tab.co.nz/">www.tab.co.nz</a>, <a href="https://i.tab.co.nz/">m.tab.co.nz</a>, Touch Tone, Phonebet or in our retail stores. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>To claim the remaining balance in your account you can either:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=gmail-msolistparagraph><span style='font-family:Symbol'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> </span>Request a cheque<o:p></o:p></p><p class=gmail-msolistparagraph><span style='font-family:Symbol'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> </span>Receive a Direct Credit<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Please see the attached form that you can send back to us to claim your remaining balance. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for your past custom and wish you the best of luck in the future.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'>Yours sincerely,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'>Martin Saunders<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'>General Manager TAB<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 at 20:00, L.B.Loveday <<a href="mailto:lloveday@ozemail.com.au">lloveday@ozemail.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US><br><br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:lloveday@ozemail.com.au" target="_blank">lloveday@ozemail.com.au</a><br><b>Subject:</b> <span style='color:black;background:yellow'>Vicbet.com MBL</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Len </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style='background:white'><span style='color:#201F1E'>Looking at all the figures as I do regularly, particularly towards the end of the Fin Year and continually re-accessing everything I am sorry but the Pre-Post Post Fixed Odds, Overseas Betting, BOB, TF, H2H, and the BT, Fav v Field, Odds v Evens, Exotics are <u>no</u> longer available for you………..Your strike rate is <u>incredibly</u> good. I congratulate you on your ability on the Punt, one of the best. Unfortunately with the introduction of the “Point of Consumption” (POC) Tax in all jurisdictions plus many other taxes I have had to implement this change……</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='background:white'><span style='color:#201F1E'>You are welcome to take Fixed Odds to win the <u>Minimum Bet Limit</u> (MBL) as described here below:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>Etc.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>*********</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>26 days, 163 bets at $150 the Place, 17 the Place for smaller amounts (top-up to $150 from other restricted bets - I am a moderate level staker where possible) and they spit the dummy. Then they got even weaker - I waited to test whether they were on the ball with zero allowed WA, tried $150 @ 3.9, rejected and they dropped the price.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>WARNING: if you do have an account and a winning bet, check deductions - once a figure that did not accord with their published table, once scratchings were out when I bet, later altered to 9:07, 90 minutes after they were scratched and they applied deductions, once deductions initially (and correctly) shown as 2/2, changed to 5/6 before paying.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>Cheers,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>LBL</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>Racing mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Racing@ausrace.com" target="_blank">Racing@ausrace.com</a><br><a href="http://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com" target="_blank">http://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>