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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>"..</span> bordered on cheating.."!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>There were tens of $millions legally bet on the various results of the Cape Town Test, and punters are entitled to assume the results are fairly determined and not dependent on the success or not of cheats. </span>What they did was an attempt to change the result of a game by illegal actions. No matter which way it is spun - "ball-tampering" and other euphemisms - it was attempted match-fixing.<span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Part of those $millions are paid to CA for the right to bet on "their product" and goes into the pool from which these cricketers are paid. Betting on the game also encourages those who have bet to watch, increasing the ratings & thus increasing the value of television rights, a big part of CA's income. And Bookmakers advertise extensively during Test broadcasts (so I' told), adding to the value of TV rights.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Part of the players' payments is by way of performance bonuses, which would be bigger if they won, thus they attempted "dishonestly obtaining financial advantage by deception" - a criminal offence - as they tried to illegally affect the results of the game (more wickets, more quickly, greater chance of winning) when succeeding could have meant bigger bonuses. Also, sponsors are willing to pay more for successful players - the more successful, the more sponsorship they get. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Far from being harshly treated as so many say, I consider them lucky to not be criminally charged. Cronje got life for match-fixing (I don't see that it matters that he got a direct payment while theirs is not so obvious in $$ terms, but as I have outlined above, success at cheating would have led to a financial advantage).</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Two men were jailed over the Fine Cotton affair and far less money was bet on that race than on the Cape Town Test; I honestly cannot see that what those 2 did was deserving of criminal sanction while the cricketers' actions got a relative slap on the wrist.<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>Smith condoned cheating then initially lied when caught out; that's the Australian Captain whom PM Howard described as the pinnacle of Australian leadership rather than the PM, but who cheated with malice of forethought, lied about it and disgraced Australia.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><br>If every other country and every player from every other country cheated, that would not in the least excuse what they did.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>LBL<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Racing <b>On Behalf Of </b>norsaintpublishing@gmail.com<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 18 September 2019 18:33 PM<br><b>To:</b> AusRace Racing Discussion List <racing@ausrace.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusRace] After prawns - Darts and the Jesuit<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>I beg to disagree Tony. Cricket is the greatest game IMHO. The embarrassing carry-on of recent years has bordered on cheating and isn't really typical of how the game used to be played. Gamemanship tinged with humour used to be the go whereas our blokes have been cheating with their ludicrous "mental disintegration" bullshit they've carried on with since Waugh S took over. <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 18:13, Tony Moffat <<a href="mailto:tonymoffat@bigpond.com">tonymoffat@bigpond.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Northerly – thanks. I made the point that cricketers, in their creams, are not nice, and jingoistic, in the endeavor to put off the opposition, a batsman in this case. Whereas, a much more manly sport, thugby, especially at school boy level, where this was when referred to, is, or was, not subjected to the nasty words, sledging, so much. This is my opinion and I was out there for a few years and have the ears as evidence. In football there is the heavy hitting and most are conditioned for it. In cricket you have angry persons throwing hard balls at your head, and bouncing them for the purpose of accelerating them to achieve this. Both games originated in England, rugby just doesn’t pretend to be anything other than exercise, and cricket looks nice from the boundary but there are better things to do on a hot Australian summer afternoon, and the whole thing seems predicated on disliking your opponent, the proof of which is throwing things at them!</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Cheers</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Tony</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Consider snipping when replying.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Racing [mailto:<a href="mailto:racing-bounces@ausrace.com" target="_blank">racing-bounces@ausrace.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:norsaintpublishing@gmail.com" target="_blank">norsaintpublishing@gmail.com</a><br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 18, 2019 1:31 PM<br><b>To:</b> AusRace Racing Discussion List <<a href="mailto:racing@ausrace.com" target="_blank">racing@ausrace.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusRace] After prawns - Darts and the Jesuit<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Know what you're saying about youngsters, cricket and swearing Tony.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>I blame attending cricket matches as a youngster to watch my father play and hanging around while they had a drink after the game, for my appalling language nowadays. Reckon I heard every swear word ever invented from the mouth of one particular individual, who it must be said was a very good fella, nonetheless. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Much to their credit, the previous generation seemed to be much more self disciplined when it came to bad language. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 14:29, Tony Moffat <<a href="mailto:tonymoffat@bigpond.com" target="_blank">tonymoffat@bigpond.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>There are 10 pages of typewriting here and not a horse, horserace or betting<br>anecdote in any of it.<br>It was good typing it while it rained today and now the woodshed beckons<br>Cheers<br><br>Tony<br><br>When I was 11 Dad got promoted and moved to a new town, a territory to him,<br>and I went to the catholic primary school. 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