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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>DO did not respond to my request for an explanation, so I sent the same email to Sportsbet and got this reply:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif;color:#2B2E2F'>******<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif;color:#2B2E2F'>Unfortunately we are not directly affiliated with Dynamic odds, so our live odds on our website may vary to what they show. Clearly in this instance their odds were not up to date with our odds and as a result have caused the $00.50c discrepancy. In future to avoid this I would recommend to double check with the SB website to ensure you are receiving the true odds.<br>******<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif;color:#2B2E2F'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif;color:#2B2E2F'>As odds change in a micro-second, the only way to avoid this is to bet directly with SB - if you check the price on SB's site, then bet via DO (which you might do to have a composite record of bets placed) the price may have changed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif;color:#2B2E2F'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif;color:#2B2E2F'>Some other sites report "odds changed", but not SB, you just get whatever they give you, not what DO says they gave you.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif;color:#2B2E2F'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif;color:#2B2E2F'>As ever, caveat punter.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif;color:#2B2E2F'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif;color:#2B2E2F'><br><br></span><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Racing <racing-bounces@ausrace.com> <b>On Behalf Of </b>sean mclaren<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 14 June 2019 15:25 PM<br><b>To:</b> AusRace Racing Discussion List <racing@ausrace.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusRace] Something else to check<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hello Len<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i see the id crosschecks .... but the time of the accepted latter bet is 2 secs later.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>embedded algo.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>it's sad that a simple consumer transaction can be manipulated like that.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>but that is the way the kid programmed it, despite it being illegal / fraudulent<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>they rely on knowing that the little guy won't check.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>and if they do, the crap that you have to go through, it is not worth it.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>there are consumer laws against this type of thing, but the regulators don't really want to regulate.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>cheers sean<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 1:58 PM L.B.Loveday <<a href="mailto:lloveday@ozemail.com.au">lloveday@ozemail.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>I requested a bet with Dynamic Odds at 8.00 (Sportsbet bet to lose $500 rather than $400 MBL), and the bet is shown as <span style='background:yellow'>being placed at 8.00</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'><img border=0 width=848 height=17 style='width:8.8333in;height:.177in' id="gmail-m_-5084486885094015140Picture_x0020_2" src="cid:image001.png@01D52678.A9F870E0"></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>However, Sportsbet has <span style='background:yellow'>placed it at 7.50</span>. I accept that the odds changed between the time I requested the bet with DO at 8.00 and it was placed with SB, BUT it should not be placed at odds other than those I requested, and especially at odds less than that.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'><img border=0 width=412 height=176 style='width:4.2916in;height:1.8333in' id="gmail-m_-5084486885094015140_x005f_x0000_i1026" src="cid:image002.png@01D52678.A9F870E0"></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>Racing mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Racing@ausrace.com" target="_blank">Racing@ausrace.com</a><br><a href="http://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com" target="_blank">http://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>