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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>"Raw wins and wins and placings" don't mean much in absence of prices - it's easy to back winners; just back every runner at 1/1 or less and you'll back around 56% of winners, and "just" lose about 5.5%.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Nor is just looking at past returns enough - factors such as those you list, and eg, track, trainer should be considered.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Here's a simplistic look at some figures that could be used:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Considering the last 1000 rides for jockeys who have had at least 1000 rides in the past 14 years (a somewhat different picture arises if only considering since the advent of SOP rather than traditional SP as SOP markets have lower market%s, especially away from Sydney/Melbourne tracks):<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Best returns @ SP: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>SThornton 101<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>MJWalker 103<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>WD'Avila 103<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>CParnham 104<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>VWong 104<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>DMoor 105<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>PWells 105<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>DWBallard 107<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>SFawke 113<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>SGuymer 115<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>JOliver 117<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Considering only rides on horses "in the market" - gets rid of outliers like 125/1 winners:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>JPStanley 100<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>JPracey-Holm 100<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>JTaylor 100<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>MWeir 100<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>RFradd 100<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>RonStewart 100<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>KWalters 102<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>SLisnyy 102<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>LJMeech 103<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>TPannell 103<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>CGallagher 104<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>RMaloney 106<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>CHall 107<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>BWerner 108<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>DWBallard 108<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>JLyon 109<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>PWells 109<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>SThornton 109<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>CNutman 110<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>VBolozhinsky 112<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Worst returns @SP:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>LGHenry 21<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>JeffKehoe 31<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>DPitomac 33<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>TJeffries 33<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>SBayliss 34<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>JMissen 36<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>MJStephens 37<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>ABadger 38<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>NRose 38<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>SStarley 38<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>ECockram 39<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>JKeating 39<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>MHackett 39<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>RYetimova 39<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>SParnham 39<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Considering only rides on horses "in the market" (as I've previously said LGHenry is in a class of her own):<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>LGHenry 27<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>MJStephens 32<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>SBayliss 36<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>CBryen 41<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>JMissen 43<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>SGalvin 45<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>SStarley 45<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>ABadger 46<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>DPitomac 46<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>BPowell 47<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>MHackett 47<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>SParnham 47<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>BStower 48<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>PaulPayne 49<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>CQuilty 50<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The big gaps - All "in market"<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>SFawke 113 79<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>WD'Avila 103 75<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>MJWalker 103 76<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>JOliver 117 91<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>BMertens 88 63<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>JTaylor 69 100<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>NPunch 60 95<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>JeffKehoe 31 72<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>SLisnyy 61 102<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>CHall 66 107<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>VBolozhinsky 70 112<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Racing <racing-bounces@ausrace.com> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Roman<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 21 January 2019 9:34 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing@ausrace.com>; tonymoffat@bigpond.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusRace] Jockeys generally<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>The fascination of it all is that two raters could have the same jockey literally poles apart depending on criterias chosen.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>I have never rated jockeys nor trainers as I wonder if there is all that much between a number of them at the top level. If the SP figures is a solid determinant of the overall structure of horse racing does it not figure those jockeys that ride well on well fancied horses are giving the horses the chance of winning the market determines. Say Jockey A has 100 rides in races in town on favs and scores 35% of the time is he not a fraction better than Jockey B who rides 32%. So the next time the two jockeys meet on say favs at 2/1 and 9/4 (close) but the 32% jockey rides an on pacer and the 35% jockey rides a chronic get back type where does the ratings look now. It would be best to rate them all on their ability with leaders, on pacers, mid fielders and get back types and another set of figures comes up far more accurate, imho, than just a raw wins and wins and placings.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>I look forward to Len’s reply.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Roman Koz<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> Racing [<a href="mailto:racing-bounces@ausrace.com">mailto:racing-bounces@ausrace.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>L.B.Loveday<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 21, 2019 6:12 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:tonymoffat@bigpond.com">tonymoffat@bigpond.com</a>; <a href="mailto:racing@ausrace.com">racing@ausrace.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [AusRace] Jockeys generally<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Tony,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Did not get to me and I just saw it in the archives - a very different rating method to mine; I'll evaluate and comment anon.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>LBL<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>790*150-93-96 is the revealed racing stat for Linda Meech tomorrow - to<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>expand this Ms Leech has had 790 rides for 150 wins in the time frame<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>covered by this stat. My IV for that is 1.4, essentially she is 40% advanced<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>on some others in this race.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>No rider gets less than 1, although the calculation is often less than<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>that, John Keating has .6 (scores a one in the scheme). Why? - he is on a<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>horse in the race and Bradbury's have happened, although I use the 1 for<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>statistical pureness, and to get rid of some decimals. To be factual, off a<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>calculation, Keating is somewhere like 80% more unlikely of producing a good<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>ride than Meech - he has 395*17-25-33 and is .6 against Meech at 1.4 (1.4 -<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>.6 is the basis of the claim for 80%).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Jason Maskiell is also on 1.4 in this race, off 347*54-46-41. The factor is<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>0.300552251 (the average of all jockeys riding) and my fall back value is<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>.31 - if a jockey can't be rated (the data is missing e.g.) then I assign<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>that value to it early in the calculation.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Roger Biggs wrote that he used .2595, which may be the statistical base of<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>all jockey placings across many rides. This has changed somewhat, there is a<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>jockey db. on RB Ratings. I am unaware of another method to rate and rank<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>jockeys against all their rides. They can only ride one horse in a race so<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>that the iv concocted from a large number of rides seems to be correct, and<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>I total all the rides for all jockeys in the race then divide that into all<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>the places achieved by all the jockeys, and from that sub-total I<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>individually determine an iv. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>There is a place system for ranking jockeys when on favorites, but that is<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>not the jockey at all. Another time perhaps. Who likes, or wants, dividends<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>in the sub $2 range, most of us really. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>This upcoming race has riders which have achieved 4708 rides totally under<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>the period of review, and of those rides those riders scored, placed, in<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>1415. So, 1415/4708 = .300552251 is the factor to be used. Individually<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Keating has 395*17-25-33 (17+25+33/395 = .1898734) and this product is again<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>divided by the total score .3005522512 to give the score of .6. These<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>numbers seem minimal, mickey mouse almost, but are a significant part of the<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>overall stat picture<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Trainers may have two or more runners in the race. I score them the same as<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>jockeys, total rides into total places (123) and develop a iv score from<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>that.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Involving riders and trainers, getting a score from them combined, I<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>multiply their ivs and work with the product, ranking that.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Meech 1.4, trainer 1.3 (1.4 * 1.3 = 1.82)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Keating 1, trainer 1 (1 * 1 =1) actually .6 * .1. The trainer is yet to win<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>a race<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Maskiell 1.4, trainer 1 (1.4 * 1 = 1.4.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Dylan Dunn = 1.1<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>There is some upside to Linda Meech ability, trainer ability.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>This is R2 Kyneton tomorrow, a maiden and I'm not betting<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>in it, nor do I suggest you do.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html>