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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>At least I did better in rating leaders in Beaudesert 7 - I had them 12, 5, 4, and that's the way it panned out; not that that's much good as they pay on the post, not the jump, and I had that 2, 5, 3.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Racing <racing-bounces@ausrace.com> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tony Moffat<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 15 November 2018 5:13 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing@ausrace.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusRace] Aged runner ARMONA - was Crafty Cruiser<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Nick – thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Another ‘oldie’ is Landale running in Beaudesrt R7 and tipped to win<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>It last ran on Saturday in the Tabulam Cup – Tabulam –between the surf and Texas!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>This is a competitive racehorse with scores of 15.82m/s, 16.64m/s, 16.72m/s against a class/distance score of 16.5 m/s<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>And ok, I haven’t scored the other runners but typically they score less than 16.5 – we’ll watch and see what it does.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I’m not tipping it, just including it in the discussion.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>My choices would be 5(Landale), 10,11,3.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Tony<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Racing [<a href="mailto:racing-bounces@ausrace.com">mailto:racing-bounces@ausrace.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>nick.aubrey<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 15, 2018 12:53 PM<br><b>To:</b> AusRace Racing Discussion List <<a href="mailto:racing@ausrace.com">racing@ausrace.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusRace] Aged runner ARMONA - was Crafty Cruiser<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Another 11 yo still running well. I predict it will lead and if can get cheap sectionals could lead all the way. Massive odds at 71 and 16 the place but did win 2 years ago as a 9 yo at 100/1<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>AN OLDIE BUT A GOODIE … 11 Armona 11yo g (Racha_Cuneen) Thu 15-Nov-18 (ADST) 17:00 Seymour R8 at 07:37 AM odds 71 ... #GoodBetterBet<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>AN<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="composer_signature"><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#575757'>Sent on the go with Vodafone<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>-------- Original message --------<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>From: "L.B.Loveday" <<a href="mailto:lloveday@ozemail.com.au">lloveday@ozemail.com.au</a>> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>Date: 11/11/18 9:01 am (GMT+10:00) <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <<a href="mailto:racing@ausrace.com">racing@ausrace.com</a>> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>Subject: Re: [AusRace] Aged runners - was Crafty Cruiser <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>Tony, maybe like so many humans, horses are aging better. My 70 yo sister<br>still plays basketball 3 nights a week - not Masters, although she does<br>compete in their games, but in open competition, with teenagers and 20s; not<br>A grade any more, but even D grade teenagers are tough competition for a<br>great-grannie-to be.<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Racing <<a href="mailto:racing-bounces@ausrace.com">racing-bounces@ausrace.com</a>> On Behalf Of Tony Moffat<br>Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2018 2:06 PM<br>To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <<a href="mailto:racing@ausrace.com">racing@ausrace.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [AusRace] Aged runners - was Crafty Cruiser<br><br>Len - there are a raft of older runners (63) accepted for racing today<br>(10/11) including a 12 year old at Geelong(scr. now).<br>There is a competitive race at Moranbah (yes, there) were the 10 yo is<br>priced at $2.20 A nine year old Alpine Dragon is racing at Newcastle<br>(pronounced Noo-cassel by the girl on the internet radio) and trained by the<br>very horse name orientated Colt Prosser.<br><br>Tabulam has racing today with several 'oldies' contesting. There is a sign<br>in the town that announces it is half way between the surf and Texas!<br><br>So with a count of 63 in a days racing seems to confirm your observation,<br>there is a lot of the aged brigade still running, and running quite well if<br>you review their last four starts.<br><br>Cheers<br><br>Tony<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Racing [<a href="mailto:racing-bounces@ausrace.com">mailto:racing-bounces@ausrace.com</a>] On Behalf Of L.B.Loveday<br>Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 3:37 AM<br>To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <<a href="mailto:racing@ausrace.com">racing@ausrace.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [AusRace] Crafty Cruiser<br><br>Last year, 2017, there were 196 11yo runs, for 3 wins. <br><br><br>1296 runners for 5 wins sounds very wrong - that would make them incredible<br>lays.<br><br>Risa must ignore many races for their calculations that TRB includes - TRB<br>provide results of races big and small - 41 meetings on MC day.<br><br>I make it 9851 runners 8yo or older for 679 winners in 2017, a vast<br>discrepancy from 1296/5. At Mainland Metro alone I make it 1270 for 60<br>winners.<br><br>As always, statistics are only as accurate as my data bases and my<br>programming!<br><br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Racing <<a href="mailto:racing-bounces@ausrace.com">racing-bounces@ausrace.com</a>> On Behalf Of Tony Moffat<br>Sent: Friday, 9 November 2018 10:45 PM<br>To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <<a href="mailto:racing@ausrace.com">racing@ausrace.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [AusRace] Crafty Cruiser<br><br>Hi Len<br><a href="http://publishingservices.risa.com.au/otherpublications/Factbook%202016-2017">http://publishingservices.risa.com.au/otherpublications/Factbook%202016-2017</a><br>/83/#zoom=z<br>I got my data here - capped at 2017 season though.<br>It seems there were 1296 runners aged 8yo+ and they won 5 races.<br>The year before there were more runners for 3 successes.<br>These are wins. Sometimes, presumably , they run, not for first, or any<br>place but for the runner prize which can be $2400 just for going around,<br>nice work if you can get it, and that $2.4K buys a whack of hay, I know.<br><br>I reckon we could be justified in ignoring them somewhat, the aged.<br><br>I missed the race tonight - gardening.<br><br>Cheers<br><br>Tony<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Racing [<a href="mailto:racing-bounces@ausrace.com">mailto:racing-bounces@ausrace.com</a>] On Behalf Of L.B.Loveday<br>Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 6:10 PM<br>To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <<a href="mailto:racing@ausrace.com">racing@ausrace.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [AusRace] Crafty Cruiser<br><br>Tony,<br><br>Quite a year for 11yos - 48 unique 11yos have run according to my<br>TRB-supplied database, being the most in any calendar year since and<br>including 1995 and there are weeks to go. They have contested 255 races for<br>15 wins (after CC today, 256; there was another 11yo in the same race,<br>Knucklemanna, but it was scratched), returning $105 at $1 SP - pretty easy<br>to see why I give them a big negative.<br><br>LBL<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Racing <<a href="mailto:racing-bounces@ausrace.com">racing-bounces@ausrace.com</a>> On Behalf Of Tony Moffat<br>Sent: Friday, 9 November 2018 7:12 PM<br>To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <<a href="mailto:racing@ausrace.com">racing@ausrace.com</a>><br>Subject: [AusRace] Crafty Cruiser<br><br>Crafty Cruiser<br>Cranbourne Race 4 tonight 2000 hours local It seems this greybeard has been<br>with us at the races for years - essentially it has been.<br>He runs tonight for his 141 start and is 11 years old and ridden by Corey<br>Parish, him with that flamboyant whipping action of his. <br>Sadly CC does not seem to figure in any sums for the race, neither the<br>tipsters nor the form, weight, money schemes or workouts can promote him to<br>the fore, not even fourth or fifth or sixth in some rankings.<br>The old boy has average earnt $5000 each time he has fronted and remains<br>fit, and healthy it seems, and always seems keen and alert and well<br>mannered. He must have a licence to race because I thought they were<br>stopping them at 9 years old, the comfort clause, unless there were special<br>reasons for it to run on.<br>I think 141 starts is a good point to stop now. There is an apprehension now<br>each time he goes round, did he get in okay, well that's what I feel any<br>way.<br>The form seems to be with 6,3,4, and 8.<br>The before and now money choices might be 5,6,3, and two and there are lots<br>of touches for him on the corporate sites, three I use have him written<br>up(flucs) 44 times - I'm not sure that is an accurate indicator, for<br>anything actually, except for the clerk who is trying to entice some money<br>for it.<br>For what it's worth I hope he wins, then retires - there is a paddock here<br>if needs be, he can share with the Bonnar brothers, Scott and Victa, the<br>rams.<br>Cheers<br>Tony<br><br><br>---<br>This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.<br><a href="https://www.avg.com">https://www.avg.com</a><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Racing mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Racing@ausrace.com">Racing@ausrace.com</a><br><a href="http://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com">http://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com</a><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Racing mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Racing@ausrace.com">Racing@ausrace.com</a><br><a href="http://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com">http://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com</a><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Racing mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Racing@ausrace.com">Racing@ausrace.com</a><br><a href="http://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com">http://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com</a><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Racing mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Racing@ausrace.com">Racing@ausrace.com</a><br><a href="http://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com">http://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com</a><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Racing mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Racing@ausrace.com">Racing@ausrace.com</a><br><a href="http://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com">http://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com</a><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Racing mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Racing@ausrace.com">Racing@ausrace.com</a><br><a href="http://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com">http://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=1 cellpadding=0 style='border:none;border-top:solid #D3D4DE 1.0pt'><tr><td width=55 style='width:41.25pt;border:none;padding:9.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><a href="http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient" target="_blank"><span style='text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=46 height=29 style='width:.4791in;height:.302in' id="_x0000_i1025" src="https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-green-avg-v1.png"></span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=470 style='width:352.5pt;border:none;padding:9.0pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:13.5pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#41424E'>Virus-free. <a href="http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient" target="_blank"><span style='color:#4453EA'>www.avg.com</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></body></html>