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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Great you are alive and well!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Rob W<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Racing <racing-bounces@ausrace.com> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Roger Biggs<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 10 November 2018 9:15 AM<br><b>To:</b> racing@ausrace.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusRace] Crafty Cruiser<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>CRAFTY CRUISER<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>My wee d/b (+/- 15 yrs) shows 1877 11 YO's for 67 wins (WSR 3.57% POT -65.18%)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>at an AvTAB of $9.76. Careful, though, these stats encompass all race fields, all going,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>all distances etc etc<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Never mind, CC ...... ran 3rd at TAB $9.40/$2.10.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Interesting to note that examining 8 - 10 field, $9 - $10 TAB the WSR holds at +/- 8.25%<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>up to 9yr olds then it drops off very fast to around 3.25%<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>But ..... these are just interesting numbers, nothing to do with the running of a horse-race <span style='font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif'>😁</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 at 06:38, L.B.Loveday <<a href="mailto:lloveday@ozemail.com.au">lloveday@ozemail.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><p class=MsoNormal>Last year, 2017, there were 196 11yo runs, for 3 wins. <br><br><br>1296 runners for 5 wins sounds very wrong - that would make them incredible<br>lays.<br><br>Risa must ignore many races for their calculations that TRB includes - TRB<br>provide results of races big and small - 41 meetings on MC day.<br><br>I make it 9851 runners 8yo or older for 679 winners in 2017, a vast<br>discrepancy from 1296/5. At Mainland Metro alone I make it 1270 for 60<br>winners.<br><br>As always, statistics are only as accurate as my data bases and my<br>programming!<br><br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Racing <<a href="mailto:racing-bounces@ausrace.com" target="_blank">racing-bounces@ausrace.com</a>> On Behalf Of Tony Moffat<br>Sent: Friday, 9 November 2018 10:45 PM<br>To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <<a href="mailto:racing@ausrace.com" target="_blank">racing@ausrace.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [AusRace] Crafty Cruiser<br><br>Hi Len<br><a href="http://publishingservices.risa.com.au/otherpublications/Factbook%202016-2017/83/#zoom=z" target="_blank">http://publishingservices.risa.com.au/otherpublications/Factbook%202016-2017<br>/83/#zoom=z</a><br>I got my data here - capped at 2017 season though.<br>It seems there were 1296 runners aged 8yo+ and they won 5 races.<br>The year before there were more runners for 3 successes.<br>These are wins. Sometimes, presumably , they run, not for first, or any<br>place but for the runner prize which can be $2400 just for going around,<br>nice work if you can get it, and that $2.4K buys a whack of hay, I know.<br><br>I reckon we could be justified in ignoring them somewhat, the aged.<br><br>I missed the race tonight - gardening.<br><br>Cheers<br><br>Tony<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Racing [mailto:<a href="mailto:racing-bounces@ausrace.com" target="_blank">racing-bounces@ausrace.com</a>] On Behalf Of L.B.Loveday<br>Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 6:10 PM<br>To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <<a href="mailto:racing@ausrace.com" target="_blank">racing@ausrace.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [AusRace] Crafty Cruiser<br><br>Tony,<br><br>Quite a year for 11yos - 48 unique 11yos have run according to my<br>TRB-supplied database, being the most in any calendar year since and<br>including 1995 and there are weeks to go. They have contested 255 races for<br>15 wins (after CC today, 256; there was another 11yo in the same race,<br>Knucklemanna, but it was scratched), returning $105 at $1 SP - pretty easy<br>to see why I give them a big negative.<br><br>LBL<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Racing <<a href="mailto:racing-bounces@ausrace.com" target="_blank">racing-bounces@ausrace.com</a>> On Behalf Of Tony Moffat<br>Sent: Friday, 9 November 2018 7:12 PM<br>To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <<a href="mailto:racing@ausrace.com" target="_blank">racing@ausrace.com</a>><br>Subject: [AusRace] Crafty Cruiser<br><br>Crafty Cruiser<br>Cranbourne Race 4 tonight 2000 hours local It seems this greybeard has been<br>with us at the races for years - essentially it has been.<br>He runs tonight for his 141 start and is 11 years old and ridden by Corey<br>Parish, him with that flamboyant whipping action of his. <br>Sadly CC does not seem to figure in any sums for the race, neither the<br>tipsters nor the form, weight, money schemes or workouts can promote him to<br>the fore, not even fourth or fifth or sixth in some rankings.<br>The old boy has average earnt $5000 each time he has fronted and remains<br>fit, and healthy it seems, and always seems keen and alert and well<br>mannered. He must have a licence to race because I thought they were<br>stopping them at 9 years old, the comfort clause, unless there were special<br>reasons for it to run on.<br>I think 141 starts is a good point to stop now. There is an apprehension now<br>each time he goes round, did he get in okay, well that's what I feel any<br>way.<br>The form seems to be with 6,3,4, and 8.<br>The before and now money choices might be 5,6,3, and two and there are lots<br>of touches for him on the corporate sites, three I use have him written<br>up(flucs) 44 times - I'm not sure that is an accurate indicator, for<br>anything actually, except for the clerk who is trying to entice some money<br>for it.<br>For what it's worth I hope he wins, then retires - there is a paddock here<br>if needs be, he can share with the Bonnar brothers, Scott and Victa, the<br>rams.<br>Cheers<br>Tony<br><br><br>---<br>This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.<br><a href="https://www.avg.com" target="_blank">https://www.avg.com</a><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Racing mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Racing@ausrace.com" target="_blank">Racing@ausrace.com</a><br><a href="http://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com" target="_blank">http://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com</a><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Racing mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Racing@ausrace.com" target="_blank">Racing@ausrace.com</a><br><a href="http://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com" target="_blank">http://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com</a><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Racing mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Racing@ausrace.com" target="_blank">Racing@ausrace.com</a><br><a href="http://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com" target="_blank">http://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com</a><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Racing mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Racing@ausrace.com" target="_blank">Racing@ausrace.com</a><br><a href="http://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com" target="_blank">http://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>