<div dir="ltr">CRAFTY CRUISER<div><br></div><div>My wee d/b (+/- 15 yrs) shows 1877 11 YO's for 67 wins (WSR 3.57% POT -65.18%)</div><div>at an AvTAB of $9.76. Careful, though, these stats encompass all race fields, all going,</div><div>all distances etc etc</div><div>Never mind, CC ...... ran 3rd at TAB $9.40/$2.10.</div><div><br></div><div>Interesting to note that examining 8 - 10 field, $9 - $10 TAB the WSR holds at +/- 8.25%</div><div>up to 9yr olds then it drops off very fast to around 3.25%</div><div><br></div><div>But ..... these are just interesting numbers, nothing to do with the running of a horse-race 😁</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 at 06:38, L.B.Loveday <<a href="mailto:lloveday@ozemail.com.au">lloveday@ozemail.com.au</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Last year, 2017, there were 196 11yo runs, for 3 wins. <br>
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1296 runners for 5 wins sounds very wrong - that would make them incredible<br>
lays.<br>
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Risa must ignore many races for their calculations that TRB includes - TRB<br>
provide results of races big and small - 41 meetings on MC day.<br>
<br>
I make it 9851 runners 8yo or older for 679 winners in 2017, a vast<br>
discrepancy from 1296/5. At Mainland Metro alone I make it 1270 for 60<br>
winners.<br>
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As always, statistics are only as accurate as my data bases and my<br>
programming!<br>
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Hi Len<br>
<a href="http://publishingservices.risa.com.au/otherpublications/Factbook%202016-2017/83/#zoom=z" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://publishingservices.risa.com.au/otherpublications/Factbook%202016-2017<br>
/83/#zoom=z</a><br>
I got my data here - capped at 2017 season though.<br>
It seems there were 1296 runners aged 8yo+ and they won 5 races.<br>
The year before there were more runners for 3 successes.<br>
These are wins. Sometimes, presumably , they run, not for first, or any<br>
place but for the runner prize which can be $2400 just for going around,<br>
nice work if you can get it, and that $2.4K buys a whack of hay, I know.<br>
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I reckon we could be justified in ignoring them somewhat, the aged.<br>
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I missed the race tonight - gardening.<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
<br>
Tony<br>
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Subject: Re: [AusRace] Crafty Cruiser<br>
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Tony,<br>
<br>
Quite a year for 11yos - 48 unique 11yos have run according to my<br>
TRB-supplied database, being the most in any calendar year since and<br>
including 1995 and there are weeks to go. They have contested 255 races for<br>
15 wins (after CC today, 256; there was another 11yo in the same race,<br>
Knucklemanna, but it was scratched), returning $105 at $1 SP - pretty easy<br>
to see why I give them a big negative.<br>
<br>
LBL<br>
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Subject: [AusRace] Crafty Cruiser<br>
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Crafty Cruiser<br>
Cranbourne Race 4 tonight 2000 hours local It seems this greybeard has been<br>
with us at the races for years - essentially it has been.<br>
He runs tonight for his 141 start and is 11 years old and ridden by Corey<br>
Parish, him with that flamboyant whipping action of his. <br>
Sadly CC does not seem to figure in any sums for the race, neither the<br>
tipsters nor the form, weight, money schemes or workouts can promote him to<br>
the fore, not even fourth or fifth or sixth in some rankings.<br>
The old boy has average earnt $5000 each time he has fronted and remains<br>
fit, and healthy it seems, and always seems keen and alert and well<br>
mannered. He must have a licence to race because I thought they were<br>
stopping them at 9 years old, the comfort clause, unless there were special<br>
reasons for it to run on.<br>
I think 141 starts is a good point to stop now. There is an apprehension now<br>
each time he goes round, did he get in okay, well that's what I feel any<br>
way.<br>
The form seems to be with 6,3,4, and 8.<br>
The before and now money choices might be 5,6,3, and two and there are lots<br>
of touches for him on the corporate sites, three I use have him written<br>
up(flucs) 44 times - I'm not sure that is an accurate indicator, for<br>
anything actually, except for the clerk who is trying to entice some money<br>
for it.<br>
For what it's worth I hope he wins, then retires - there is a paddock here<br>
if needs be, he can share with the Bonnar brothers, Scott and Victa, the<br>
rams.<br>
Cheers<br>
Tony<br>
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