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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Update - Luxbet paid up, so the trading team was overruled. Thankfully, because I'd have had to appeal to the NTRC, which makes the CSA look like a beacon of unbiased adjudication.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Today's snowflakes story:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I put $34 on at 31.00 (MBL max) on Warr 3/2 with SB, who turned it to 18.00 (that would be their autobot I presume). The lemmings followed across the board - behemoths like WH and Crown and NTRC's go-to comparison in appeals, TopSport, inter alia, turned it down virtually immediately, to 19.00 - 26.00 range (.All except BZero, who, as is usually the case, stuck to their assessment of 31.00. not turning it down until 60 minutes later, oh and newcomer SportsBetting, which has taken over ClassicBet's mantel of fauxodds at 18.40). . <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>It is most unlikely other punters bet at the same time as I did, so it seems that no-one except BZero and SB have opinions. $34 causes such a flurry! Snowflakes is too generous.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>LBL<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Racing [mailto:racing-bounces@ausrace.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>L.B.Loveday<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 11 December 2017 9:53 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'AusRace Racing Discussion List'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusRace] Luxbet<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>One more point - all my bets are vetted and individually approved, rejected or partially accepted manually by them, whether for $1 or $1000, even when within the MBL limits.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Summary: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Lux continued to bet place on a 4-horse field after a late scratching (it was already taken out of the market I bet into, so no deductions apply), with a market>200%, at a price less than TAB, which also continued to bet place.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>They declared my bet a loss despite the horse running second.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Upon my complaint, instead of paying me, they voided the bet.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>My bet was vetted and accepted by Luxbet by staff who had, or should have had, the same information as I, or almost certainly more. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>LBL<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Racing [<a href="mailto:racing-bounces@ausrace.com">mailto:racing-bounces@ausrace.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Race Stats<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 10 December 2017 2:59 PM<br><b>To:</b> AusRace Racing Discussion List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusRace] Luxbet<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Wow, Len that’s just fraud in my opinion.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>A fibre optic cable does not interfere with being paid, that could have been rectified.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Never ever heard of not being paid for a second placing in a field of 5.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Actually of all the bookies, I had won a 5 figure sum off them and they never limited my account, so I have (had) them on my list as one of the best bookies around. Classic Bet being the worst in my experience. They won’t take you on to lose more than $100 if you’re even a little bit up with them.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks for the alert, I will be watching them closely from now on.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Lindsay<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Racing [<a href="mailto:racing-bounces@ausrace.com">mailto:racing-bounces@ausrace.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>L.B.Loveday<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 10 December 2017 8:06 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'AusRace Racing Discussion List'<br><b>Subject:</b> [AusRace] Luxbet<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>I recently gave a "thumbs up" to Luxbet.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>I retract it. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>On 6/12/2017, they offered $2.00 the place about Ipswich 6/3, which I took. The horse came 2nd, which by any rational measure is a place.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Luxbet classified it as a losing bet and kept the money.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>I pointed out the wrongness of that, and my stake was refunded, thus I back a winner and do not win with Luxbet.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>What was the problem one may wonder. Lux says "From my understanding a fibre optic cable under St. Kilda road was damaged and as such resulted in some software issues". No I'm not making that up, my imagination is not that vivid.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>They follow up with "In this instance, your bet will be void. Luxbet does not pay a place for a field of less than five". No, they just take bets on fields of less than 5 and keep the stake unless the mug punter complains. How many others did not pick up that they were not paid? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>PS, QLD tote paid 2.90 - so not only was I cheated, I'd taken massive "unders"..<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>LBL<br> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html>