<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1504884359979_4398">Interesting comment - can anyone say how many 7yo stallions run in the Cup these days? I'm sure there is the odd "out-lier" but suspect most 7yo's are either at stud or have been gelded.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1504884359979_4396"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1504884359979_4394">Cheers from the Grand Canyon state..<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1504884359979_4393"><span></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1504884359979_4391"> </div><div class="signature" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1504884359979_4390">Rob <br></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1504884359979_4254"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1504884359979_4258" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1504884359979_4257"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1504884359979_4256"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1504884359979_4255"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Stuart Mackay <pfjg1g@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> AusRace Racing Discussion List <racing@ausrace.com> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, September 8, 2017 4:10 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [AusRace] Tarcoola - The Horse and the House<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1504884359979_4419"><br><div id="yiv2564528899"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1504884359979_4422"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1504884359979_4421">The last 7yo entire to win the Cup. That is a long drought. Good luck to this season's 7yo stallions in behind a 5yo gelding breaking their own age/sex dry spell (Doriemus, 1995) Cool Chap?</div><div class="yiv2564528899yqt3530229133" id="yiv2564528899yqt57527"><div class="yiv2564528899gmail_extra" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1504884359979_4424"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv2564528899gmail_quote" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1504884359979_4426">On 8 Sep 2017 20:14, "Phil Buckland" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:phil@buckland.id.au" target="_blank" href="mailto:phil@buckland.id.au">phil@buckland.id.au</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv2564528899gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1504884359979_4428">Interesting Read Tony<br clear="none">
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Subject: [AusRace] Tarcoola - The Horse and the House<br clear="none">
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Tarcoola - The horse and the house.<br clear="none">
Tarcoola won the 1893 Melbourne Cup, at a good price, and had run well in<br clear="none">
Carbines Cup in 1890 also.<br clear="none">
In winning Tarcoola recorded 204.5 seconds which was amended that afternoon<br clear="none">
to 210.5 seconds. The first mentioned time would have had it winning 40 of<br clear="none">
the first 40 runnings, then 29 of the next 40 runnings,<br clear="none">
5 of the next 40, and 1 of the next 18 (to end at the year 2000<br clear="none">
running)<br clear="none">
As an aside it is interesting to see the race time improve through the<br clear="none">
years, it was not until 1925 with King Ingoda, that the recorded time was<br clear="none">
bettered, 204.25 seconds. Yes, the race distance has been shortened, by 61<br clear="none">
feet, but you get the gist.<br clear="none">
The naming of the horse has caused some conjecture, Tarcoola (SA) claim it<br clear="none">
as theirs. Tarcoola, a sheep station at Dalton, claim ownership.<br clear="none">
Tarcoola is a house in Goulburn and Dad and Mum owned this from 1956 until<br clear="none">
moving in 1970. The house was designed by the architect Manfred senior,<br clear="none">
whose firm, a father and son show, designed many houses in the area. It was<br clear="none">
built for a Mr Connelly however the first occupant was Alexander Romula<br clear="none">
PARRISH. Parrish was born on Melbourne Cup day 1862 at Bowral. His middle<br clear="none">
name coincides with a Cup runner also, some years after his birth date.<br clear="none">
A biographer told Dad that Parrish won money on the Cup and other races and<br clear="none">
bought this house, and some shops, but further information is lacking. If<br clear="none">
so, this may explain the Tarcoola nameplate at the front door.<br clear="none">
The council records are incomplete, actually they are out of place having<br clear="none">
not being returned correctly after perusal and use by a previous biographer,<br clear="none">
so early data has not been verified.<br clear="none">
The house is situated on the corner of Verner and Cowper Streets.<br clear="none">
Cowper Street is the continuation of the Hume Highway. Verner Street comes<br clear="none">
up the steep hill from the main street, past the cathedrals and goes onto St<br clear="none">
Patricks, or more importantly, the swimming pool.<br clear="none">
The area was once a blue and green stone quarry and many houses and<br clear="none">
buildings have those rocks in their foundations. The bricks were made<br clear="none">
locally. The architects designed 16 houses that were built around so there<br clear="none">
is a uniformity to the area. The walls are not cavity constructed but<br clear="none">
interlocked. Essentially the house is a very strong brick rectangle. The<br clear="none">
timber formwork is mountain ash. Dad had the place re-wired and the plumbing<br clear="none">
updated.<br clear="none">
Tarcoola the house has as a feature a very large, long and wide upstairs<br clear="none">
veranda, unusual for the time and the house occupies two blocks, there was<br clear="none">
formerly a large kitchen garden and staff quarters and stable downstairs in<br clear="none">
the grounds.. There is an ancient grape vine there, the grape bunches are<br clear="none">
enormous, with perhaps 500 berries on each, as big as your bar fridge. The<br clear="none">
foundation blocks from the quarters are used in the garden now as retaining<br clear="none">
walls, the bricks were cleaned and taken to be used in the scoreboard<br clear="none">
building at the cricket oval near the pool. There is a space for tieing up a<br clear="none">
horse and cart on the side fence, the rail for that is still there, the<br clear="none">
fence gap or gate has been closed over now, but the baker and iceman left<br clear="none">
their horse there while they did their deliveries, maybe.<br clear="none">
There was a quantity of steel on the ground in the yard, some of it formed,<br clear="none">
rolled, as in yacht hull curves and perhaps a former occupant had<br clear="none">
aspirations of building a boat, there is a 3 phase power pole board nearby<br clear="none">
too. We sold that steel and I put my share towards a trail bike, a Cooper<br clear="none">
250.<br clear="none">
Two of the sizeable downstairs rooms have been taken as garages, there is<br clear="none">
still a kitchen and other rooms downstairs, a dumb waiter, a stairway built<br clear="none">
around the dumb waiter space, and a proper stairway nearby, both lead up<br clear="none">
from the kitchen.<br clear="none">
Upstairs there is a long and wide hallway from the front door to the smaller<br clear="none">
kitchen at the back. You can play ping pong in that hall, it is that wide,<br clear="none">
Dad suggested carpet bowls, but we changed the subject and the feeling<br clear="none">
passed. There are three bedrooms, a dining and a lounge and library. The<br clear="none">
windows upstairs are from ceiling to floor, a design feature of other<br clear="none">
Manfred houses nearby. There are fan forced gas heaters, monsters, in the<br clear="none">
lounge and kitchen. It’s Goulburn, it is cold there. There are servant<br clear="none">
callers installed in each room upstairs, levers which actuate wires that<br clear="none">
cause bells to ring in the kitchen.<br clear="none">
The wires run on installed wooden paths in the roof cavity, these paths<br clear="none">
double as walkways up there as well. There is a radio aerial in the roof<br clear="none">
cavity and there was an aerial on the roof outside, if insulators are any<br clear="none">
guide. Those big valve radios needed quarter and half wave aerials to work.<br clear="none">
There is a phone, all Bakelite and bronze in the roof cavity too.<br clear="none">
To get to the roof, and the cavity before that, you entered the wall space<br clear="none">
downstairs and there was a ladder built there, attached to the wall, you<br clear="none">
climbed upwards, in the wall space, to a door way to the roof cavity, and if<br clear="none">
you continued upwards you removed a fitted and locked hatch and came out in<br clear="none">
the sunshine on the roof, where there was a walkway.<br clear="none">
There is a downstairs hallway too. The ceiling there, near the front, has a<br clear="none">
bullet hole but no projectile, this is also the floor of the upper level<br clear="none">
too, and the cupboard at the other end of the hall also has a bullet hole,<br clear="none">
again no projectile. Ok, perhaps there was a duel and they both missed,<br clear="none">
shook hands, and had a Pimms, but that was the thinking of a 17 year old<br clear="none">
youth, without a girlfriend again, back then.<br clear="none">
The garage was two rooms made into the garage, plenty of room for my<br clear="none">
motorbike and Dads HR Premier (with spats which he did not like).<br clear="none">
There was a dental college next door, with fat rabbits running rampant, we<br clear="none">
netted them in the sweet pea patch and returned them. They had perfect teeth<br clear="none">
though, nice smiles said Mum, sniggering.<br clear="none">
Over the road was a novitiate, a religious college, with stern Nuns and<br clear="none">
smiling girls who waved and declined the offered strawberries.<br clear="none">
Next to that was a training college, for something, it was American owned<br clear="none">
and run, with flash long American cars outside that scraped the driveway<br clear="none">
when coming and going. Down the hill was a locked ward hospice.<br clear="none">
There were 5 sp bookmakers that I was aware of in the city, two of those<br clear="none">
were shop fronts. One was where you walked down the aisles of shoes and<br clear="none">
handbags, and knocked on a counter and a woman took your bets. You had to<br clear="none">
know your bets and betting ended an hour before the advertised starting<br clear="none">
time. Other sp may have let you on until the off, so to speak. Paying was on<br clear="none">
Monday afternoon and there was a limit of<br clear="none">
$35 each outcome. On Saturday afternoon you entered through the café next to<br clear="none">
the shop or there was the telephone. The payout limit was increased for<br clear="none">
telephone bets.<br clear="none">
I never used them, those SP, nor did I have a code pass or telephone<br clear="none">
number.<br clear="none">
The TAB was on the other side of the road at thr opposite end of the street,<br clear="none">
3 blocks away, and was plain to the extreme, two lines on the floor leading<br clear="none">
to a buying window, there was a centre table although the race field charts<br clear="none">
were on the walls, as you would expect. So you chose your bets, wrote a<br clear="none">
slip, checked the details from the charts again, then waited silently in the<br clear="none">
line for your bets, $0.25 cent multiples. Friendless places, then and now.<br clear="none">
I worked for Winchcombe,Carson in the woolstore, the best pre season<br clear="none">
training for me, lumping hundreds of wool bales into storage positions and<br clear="none">
display spots for the auction. They closed shortly after, moved to Melbourne<br clear="none">
for auctions and Geelong for storage. I was there to the end, with stalwart<br clear="none">
Elaine, did an audit of the assets, swept the place, turned off the lights,<br clear="none">
locked the door and left. I then moved to Sydney, to Neutral Bay for<br clear="none">
accommodation and to Kings Cross for school, a commercial college, six<br clear="none">
floors of that on Darlinghurst Road, with a brothel in the rear lane, I<br clear="none">
heard. I had completed and passed my HSC but was not permitted to do Trig at<br clear="none">
school, a story in itself, so I re-did the Leaving Certificate, the last<br clear="none">
year of that, and passed that also, with the Trig component included which I<br clear="none">
needed for Uni, engineering, specifically surveying. Again, this was another<br clear="none">
story in itself, and I did not become a surveyor as a result.<br clear="none">
The Tarcoola link continues though. In a year or so I was working for a man,<br clear="none">
doing straight line surveying and driving his dozer doing pads for houses<br clear="none">
and sheds out near Cobbitty, near Oran Park, and the third job was in<br clear="none">
Tarcoola Place, and to get to Tarcoola Place you had drive down Moffitts<br clear="none">
Lane.<br clear="none">
On the day of Tarcoolas win in the MC, Police raided the ‘tote’<br clear="none">
building in Johnson Street Collingwood, number 148 now but 102a (or<br clear="none">
something) back then, owned and operated by John Wren. The tote building<br clear="none">
backed up to Sackville Street, where there was a secret entry/exit, it is<br clear="none">
said. The streetsigns for both Sackville Street and Johnston Street are on<br clear="none">
the wall in the downstairs lobby of the house ‘Tarcoola’ – as is the<br clear="none">
expression ‘due to a lack of interest today has been cancelled’. I don’t<br clear="none">
know why, or how or who but interesting coincidences anyway. There are, or<br clear="none">
were, other collectibles there too.<br clear="none">
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Cheers<br clear="none">
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Tony<br clear="none">
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