<html><body> <br /><p style="margin-bottom:0in;"><font color="#000000">Thanks Doug... hope this gets through to everyone, I'd love some feedback.........</font></p><p style="margin-bottom:0in;">I
posted this article a week ago at least but never saw it come back
into my e-mail box as an Ausrace post, so I'll send again with some
editing....</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;">It's
all hype as far as Centrebet accepting big bets go! William
Hill/Centrebet, Crownbet, Classicbet, TopSport, Luxbet, Unibet
all have computerised systems running now where they will never be
top odds on any racehorse when betting first opens. My feeling
is that they are working through Dynamic Odds. All of them wait for
at least two bookies to put up their odds, almost always in order of
TAB.com.au which then get hit, with Sportsbet most times waiting to
see their odds coming in second,. Bet365, who don't care less about
either of them and throw up their own opinions, either before or
after the other two, except trying to get on for more than pennies is
the problem with them. TattsBet once were game to put up their prices
at times before these three but that seems to have stopped in recent
weeks. I have not followed Ladbrokes for a long time but they would
sometimes put up odds first but the very instant another bookie put
up their market Ladbrokes would quite often dramatically change their
odds in close line with this bookie.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;">I
think it's getting to a point where it's like the stock market high
frequency trading systems, these bookies are moving so rapidly to
adjust their odds and I guarantee you that most times William Hill/
Centrebet, Crownbet, Classicbet, TopSport, Luxbet, Unibet,
Ladbrokes are not taking a single bet, regardless of what early
fluctuations you see from them through Dynamic Odds. You can never
take notice of their odds changes as if they have taken big bets on
these horses.... they have absolutely not!</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;"><br /></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;">
<font color="#000000">For
example, Warwick Farm race 1 tlast Saturday TAB.com.au puts up their
odds...</font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;"><br /></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;">
<font color="#000000">Single
Bullet 2.1</font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;">
<font color="#000000">Callmetrouble
8</font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;">
<font color="#000000">Colesberg
11</font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;">
<font color="#000000">Radiant
Choice 4.6</font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;">
<font color="#000000">Dunaton
101</font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;">
<font color="#000000">Te
Amo 3.5</font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;">
<font color="#000000">Charlie
Chap 26</font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;"><br /></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;">
<font color="#000000">Bet365
on this occasion had their odds up before TABcorp , a huge difference
with some.....</font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;"><br /></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;">
<font color="#000000">Single
Bullet 1.4</font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;">
<font color="#000000">Callmetrouble
8</font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;">
<font color="#000000">Colesberg
16</font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;">
<font color="#000000">Radiant
Choice 6.0</font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;">
<font color="#000000">Dunaton
101</font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;">
<font color="#000000">Te
Amo 6.0</font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;">
<font color="#000000">Charlie
Chap 101</font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;"><br /></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;">
<font color="#000000">Sportsbet
came in later with this race....</font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;"><br /></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;">
<font color="#000000">Single
Bullet 1.45</font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;">
<font color="#000000">Callmetrouble
11</font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;">
<font color="#000000">Colesberg
14</font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;">
<font color="#000000">Radiant
Choice 6.0</font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;">
<font color="#000000">Dunaton
101</font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;">
<font color="#000000">Te
Amo 5.5</font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;">
<font color="#000000">Charlie
Chap 67</font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;"><br /></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;">
<font color="#000000">Crownbet
and Centrebet/Hill both came in to the market when it settled a lot
closer and their odds were both set around half way between these
three above if there is variation, if prices were the same for the
three they might give equal odds, but never higher odds. The very
moment say Sportsbet shortens their odds... these list of followers
immediately do the same without a bet being written, making sure they
are under top odds or perfectly in between the high and low odds
elsewhere! With Hill and Crown the change is almost instantaneous.
They have zero opinion of their own, their computerised system has
them smashing the odds without a single bet being struck. For a month
or two Hill actually took on at least one horse in a race at both
Melbourne and Sydney tracks and would be top odds, but that ended
weeks ago now.</font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;">I
believe Sportsbet sometimes plays games with these followers,
dropping the odds on something without a bet being taken and watch
the rest follow like the sheep they are. I think there is big
opportunity here for those that have an accurate assessment of any
race to manipulate the odds and catch these weak mongrels out. I hope
it's happening a lot already! Recently I did a little test with three
bets on the same horse at the same time with Tabcorp, Luxbet,
Topsport.. all to win under $100. They all came off the odds, and
Hill, Crown and Unibet all dropped odds in unison without a bet being
taken. Anyone would think there was a massive plunge in the early
markets, not bets to win a total of under $300!</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;">So
yeah, you might get on with Hill/Centrebet, but I assure you that
you'll get better odds elsewhere at that very moment in time.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0in;"><br /></p><p style="margin-bottom:0in;">Phil
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