[AusRace] Bill - a system
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Sun Jun 28 21:56:56 AEST 2020
Just take close to the SP and back them proportionally?
On Sun, 28 Jun 2020 at 21:28, Tony Moffat <tonymoffat at bigpond.com> wrote:
> Bill – a system
>
> 50 years ago 27/06/1970 racing was held at Moonee Valley – it was sunny
> but slow, 8 races.
>
> Bill had a way, he said, of getting onto a good one but ‘I’m stuffed if I
> know’ how to back them. Presently he was going about it each way, $10 a
> race – essentially 5 runners a dollar each way.
>
> Bill did the opposite of most, he looked at what the tipsters chose, put a
> line through them, actually it was a blue pencil, then backed the
> remainder, a dollar each way.
>
> It wasn’t a system, no way, uh uh this is my doing, I worked this. Those
> new tote tickets helped too, just mark down the five horses, write 1 and
> one, and slide it on through, he said.
>
> That was his, his non-system way of betting, systematically. It’s a good
> one though.
>
> On this day Saturday 27/06/1970 he missed on the first with his two bets,
> a hurdle, 8 runners – out $4
>
> Race 2, he got Fair Future into third 50/1 -$19 back. There were 13
> runners, 8 in the poll and he backed the outside 5. Out $10, back $19.
> Those are his words.
>
> Race 3, he got Zorbette 2nd 25/1 – about $6. Out $10 back $6.
>
> Race 4 was a loss $10 – there were 16 runners and he backed the last 5,
> like always but none saluted.
>
> Race 5 he got 2nd and 3rd 20/1 and 10/1 and only backed three of them
> anyrate. Out $6 back $6 and $3.50
>
> Race 6 was a loss -13 starters, 9 in the poll, left him with 4 to back –
> nil Out $8
>
> Race 7 Piccanniny Hcp 2nd division 13 starters – 8 in the poll, disregard
> those. The winner is Bills selection, Top Subject, ridden by Jan Wakker,
> and he gets third place in as well – Dual Cadet. This happens occasionally,
> he says nonchalantly, but at 100/1 for the winner, and 66/1 for the 3rd,
> whats common place about that?
>
> $10 out. In $127 at least and $17.50. Bill is way ahead on the day.
>
> Race 8, after a cup of tea and some stewed apples and ice cream, our Bill
> fronts up for the last, 10 starters, 7 in the poll, 3 to back and two of
> those win and come second. Sir Ted 5/1 and Sanwah 10/1. $6 out - $8.25 and
> $3.50
>
> Through it all his demeanour never changed, ok he didn’t always have ice
> cream he said and he was still undecided about coming back next week. He
> was helping a mate in Tatura with his apples, tree training whatever that
> was. He did that because he was away a few weeks.
>
> Race 1 – out $4
>
> Race 2 – out $10 – in $19
>
> Race 3 – out $6 – in $6
>
> Race 4 – out $10
>
> Race 5 – out $6 in $9.50
>
> Race 6 – out $8
>
>
>
> Race 7 out $10 in $144.50
>
> Race 8 $6 out in $11.75.
>
> Total out $60 – in $190+
>
> The payouts are my calculations from the sp. The tote is more often longer
> in price.
>
> Ok, he backed a 100/1 in there, conceded. Unlike, me, and you, Bill is
> probably going to get every long priced winner/place. Eg 16/8 –race 4
> Signal winner at 250/1
>
> The race date before this one he scored with a winner at 7/1 and place
> getters at 50/1,20/1,16/1,20/1. In the following weeks he got winners at
> 14/1,10/1,12/1,100/1 which helped and places
> 50/1,20/1,100/1,100/1,12/1,14/1,12/1,100/1,8/1,100/1,66/1,10/1,15/1,66/1.
> Yes, there are 4 at 100/1 in that run – would you ever go to Tatura again.
>
> Schematic from 20/9
>
> LLLLL,LLLLL,WON20/1LLLL,PLACE25/1LLLL,LLLLL,PLACE
> 12/1LLLL,LLLLL,PLACE13/2LLLL,
> LLLLL,PLACE40/1LLLL,PLACE66/1LLLL,WON40/1LLLL,PLACE50/1LLLL,WON25/1LLLL,PLACE25/1LLLL,WON16/1LLLL,LLLLL,LLLLL,LLLLL,LLLLL,LLLLL,WON33/1LLLL,PLACE12/1LLLL,LLLLL,LLLLL,PLACE20LLLL,WON16/1LLLL,LLLLL,WON40/1LLLL,PLACE8/1LLLL,WON25/1LLLL,LLLLL,LLLLL,WON33/1LLLL,PLACE12/1LLLL,LLLLL,LLLLL,PLACE15/1LLLL,PLACE25/1LLLL
>
> On 01/10 it went
> PLACE33/1LLLL,WON9/2LLLL,PLACE50/1LLLL,WON7/4LLLL,PLACE20/1LLLL,PLACE50/1LLLL,WON25/1LLLL
>
> On 6/9 in race 7 WON 150/1.
>
> The selections are from the Sun-Herald selection poll of 16 tipsters (as
> it was back then) – they are deleted and the remainders become the
> selections, up to 5 in total.
>
> How would you back them?
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> Tony
>
>
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