From lloveday at ozemail.com.au Wed Oct 2 17:39:27 2019 From: lloveday at ozemail.com.au (L.B.Loveday) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 17:39:27 +1000 Subject: [AusRace] (no subject) Message-ID: <001e01d578f4$84fe9d90$8efbd8b0$@ozemail.com.au> https://www.racing.com/news/2019-10-02/news-betting-giants-merge I hope they follow the Sportsbet model and not the contemptible BE. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From greg.j.conroy at gmail.com Wed Oct 2 17:45:38 2019 From: greg.j.conroy at gmail.com (Greg Conroy) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 17:45:38 +1000 Subject: [AusRace] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <001e01d578f4$84fe9d90$8efbd8b0$@ozemail.com.au> References: <001e01d578f4$84fe9d90$8efbd8b0$@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: M & A is always a sign of lack of innovation. I?m just sitting quietly on my 10 global patents ? Patience. Knocked back takeover offers already. Anyone who wants to talk to me about investing in RewardBet ? flick me an email. Or you can also invest in the most profitable tipster in the country? http://www.holygrail.club 13 times more ROI than Tom Waterhouse?s GOLD package. Greg. On 2 Oct 2019, 5:39 PM +1000, L.B.Loveday , wrote: > https://www.racing.com/news/2019-10-02/news-betting-giants-merge > > I hope they follow the Sportsbet model and not the contemptible BE. > > _______________________________________________ > Racing mailing list > Racing at ausrace.com > http://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lloveday at ozemail.com.au Sun Oct 6 08:32:04 2019 From: lloveday at ozemail.com.au (L.B.Loveday) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 08:32:04 +1100 Subject: [AusRace] (no subject) Message-ID: <000001d57bc4$55341220$ff9c3660$@ozemail.com.au> High-profile racing women dug deep to make Payne film a winner Katie Page and Gai Waterhouse were among the silent backers determined to turn Michelle Payne bio-pic Ride Like A Girl into a hit movie Annette Sharp, Sydney Confidential, The Sunday Telegraph Subscriber only | High-profile women in horseracing - and keen to promote an Australian legend and women in sport - are among the silent backers of popular new Australian feature film, Ride Like A Girl. Businesswoman Katie Page, the CEO of Harvey Norman, co-founder of yearling sales Magic Millions and wife of Gerry Harvey said she couldn't think of a better place to put her money than into a locally made film that would help make a legend of Melbourne Cup-winning jockey Michelle Payne. "What an extraordinary movie and an extraordinary story," she said, confirming she was quick to join a syndicate of silent backers who tipped money into the project after filmmaker and actor Rachel Griffiths and her co-producers started passing the cap around after acquiring the rights to Payne's book following Payne's historic Melbourne Cup victory on Pirates Of Penzance in 2015. Teresa Palmer as Michelle Payne in a scene from Ride Like A Girl. Page is dedicated to promoting women in sport and in racing and created a sponsorship program that set aside 10 $5000 sponsorships for women's sporting clubs. Another racing pioneer said to have opened her private chequebook to ensure Michelle Payne's is Australian Turf Club vice-chair Julia Ritchie. Owner and trainer Ritchie was the first female board member on the AJC board and her appointment to the ATC chair in 2014 shook the foundations of the male-dominated club when she was voted in. Ritchie, the daughter of trainer Bill Ritchie of Bangaloe Stud and owner of Golden Slipper winner Vancouver, may have been playing coy about her investment yesterday and couldn't be reached for comment. Harvey Norman CEO Katie Page has seen the movie twice. Ritchie's love of film stretches back through the years to when she worked in the film industry which is where she met Griffiths who still calls Ritchie a close friend. Another outspoken supporter of the film is Australian trainer Gai Waterhouse. Waterhouse, who attended a glamorous preview of the film at the Orpheum Theatre two weeks ago with a group of eight including husband Robbie, son Tom and jockey Hugh Bowman, said she too has a keen interest in the film. "A couple of my strappers are in the movie," she said on Friday, confirming she is behind the project and behind Payne, who has ridden for her. "I think they needed quite a lot of extras for it, so my strappers pitched in to lend a hand." Payne too is affiliated with the Waterhouses through racing - and Robbie Waterhouse has the sense Gai may have given Payne some excellent advice about how to win during the women's work together. Trainer Gai Waterhouse. Picture: AAP Vice-chair of the ATC Julia Ritchie. "Gai told her to get low in the saddle," said Robbie, advice that might have helped her bring home the Cup in 2015. "Michelle has been one of my jockeys on a number of occasions," said Gai. "She rode for me. How can you not love this story - it's a wonderful story." Waterhouse proclaimed the racing scenes in Ride Like A Girl to be "second to none" - high praise from the Tulloch Lodge trainer, regarded as the leading female force in the game. "A good film leaves you with a good feeling and this certainly did," she said. Page said she'd seen the movie twice and had left crying both times. "I cry every time I see it and when I saw it, on both occasions, when Michelle Payne's character crosses the line everyone in the cinema got up on their feet and cheered. It's just so moving. Even Gerry was moved. And you know Gerry." she added, an eye-roll implied. Producers were looking to raise $5 million from the private sector to get the low-budget feature made. Ride LIke A Girl director Rachel Griffiths. Picture: Getty Further funding came from Screen Australia via its Gender Matters: Brilliant Stories program, an initiative which gets behind women's stories and women working in the industry. To win the private backing of women in business, was an added coup. Griffiths and producer Susie Montague are also believed to have invested in the movie. At this stage it looks to have been money well spent, with Ride Like A Girl on its way to becoming the highest grossing Australian film of the year, with almost $3 million taken at the box office last week. racing at ausrace.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From norsaintpublishing at gmail.com Sun Oct 6 08:54:48 2019 From: norsaintpublishing at gmail.com (norsaintpublishing at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 08:54:48 +1100 Subject: [AusRace] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <000001d57bc4$55341220$ff9c3660$@ozemail.com.au> References: <000001d57bc4$55341220$ff9c3660$@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: I just hope they haven't tried to turn it into a tedious feminist diatribe. Griffiths has a bit of form. On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 at 08:34, L.B.Loveday wrote: > High-profile racing women dug deep to make Payne film a winner > > Katie Page and Gai Waterhouse were among the silent backers determined to > turn Michelle Payne bio-pic Ride Like A Girl into a hit movie > > *Annette Sharp*, Sydney Confidential, The Sunday Telegraph > > Subscriber only > > | > > High-profile women in horseracing ? and keen to promote an Australian > legend and women in sport ? are among the silent backers of popular new > Australian feature film, Ride Like A Girl. Businesswoman Katie Page, the > CEO of Harvey Norman, co-founder of yearling sales Magic Millions and wife > of Gerry Harvey said she couldn?t think of a better place to put her money > than into a locally made film that would help make a legend of Melbourne > Cup-winning jockey Michelle Payne. > > ?What an extraordinary movie and an extraordinary story,? she said, > confirming she was quick to join a syndicate of silent backers who tipped > money into the project after filmmaker and actor Rachel Griffiths and her > co-producers started passing the cap around after acquiring the rights to > Payne?s book following Payne?s historic Melbourne Cup victory on Pirates Of > Penzance in 2015. > > > > Teresa Palmer as Michelle Payne in a scene from Ride Like A Girl. > > Page is dedicated to promoting women in sport and in racing and created a > sponsorship program that set aside 10 $5000 sponsorships for women?s > sporting clubs. > > Another racing pioneer said to have opened her private chequebook to > ensure Michelle Payne?s is Australian Turf Club vice-chair Julia Ritchie. > > Owner and trainer Ritchie was the first female board member on the AJC > board and her appointment to the ATC chair in 2014 shook the foundations of > the male-dominated club when she was voted in. > > Ritchie, the daughter of trainer Bill Ritchie of Bangaloe Stud and owner > of Golden Slipper winner Vancouver, may have been playing coy about her > investment yesterday and couldn?t be reached for comment. > > Harvey Norman CEO Katie Page has seen the movie twice. > > Ritchie?s love of film stretches back through the years to when she worked > in the film industry which is where she met Griffiths who still calls > Ritchie a close friend. > > Another outspoken supporter of the film is Australian trainer Gai > Waterhouse. > > Waterhouse, who attended a glamorous preview of the film at the Orpheum > Theatre two weeks ago with a group of eight including husband Robbie, son > Tom and jockey Hugh Bowman, said she too has a keen interest in the film. > > ?A couple of my strappers are in the movie,? she said on Friday, > confirming she is behind the project and behind Payne, who has ridden for > her. > > ?I think they needed quite a lot of extras for it, so my strappers pitched > in to lend a hand.? > > Payne too is affiliated with the Waterhouses through racing ? and Robbie > Waterhouse has the sense Gai may have given Payne some excellent advice > about how to win during the women?s work together. > > > > Trainer Gai Waterhouse. Picture: AAP > > Vice-chair of the ATC Julia Ritchie. > > ?Gai told her to get low in the saddle,? said Robbie, advice that might > have helped her bring home the Cup in 2015. > > ?Michelle has been one of my jockeys on a number of occasions,? said Gai. > ?She rode for me. How can you not love this story ? it?s a wonderful story.? > > Waterhouse proclaimed the racing scenes in Ride Like A Girl to be ?second > to none? ? high praise from the Tulloch Lodge trainer, regarded as the > leading female force in the game. > > ?A good film leaves you with a good feeling and this certainly did,? she > said. > > Page said she?d seen the movie twice and had left crying both times. > > ?I cry every time I see it and when I saw it, on both occasions, when > Michelle Payne?s character crosses the line everyone in the cinema got up > on their feet and cheered. It?s just so moving. > Even Gerry was moved. And you know Gerry?? she added, an eye-roll implied. > > Producers were looking to raise $5 million from the private sector to get > the low-budget feature made. > > Ride LIke A Girl director Rachel Griffiths. Picture: Getty > > Further funding came from Screen Australia via its Gender Matters: > Brilliant Stories program, an initiative which gets behind women?s stories > and women working in the industry. To win the private backing of women in > business, was an added coup. > > Griffiths and producer Susie Montague are also believed to have invested > in the movie. > > At this stage it looks to have been money well spent, with Ride Like A > Girl on its way to becoming the highest grossing Australian film of the > year, with almost $3 million taken at the box office last week. > > > > racing at ausrace.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Racing mailing list > Racing at ausrace.com > http://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nick.aubrey at twonix.com Sun Oct 6 15:47:29 2019 From: nick.aubrey at twonix.com (nick.aubrey) Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2019 15:47:29 +1100 Subject: [AusRace] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <000001d57bc4$55341220$ff9c3660$@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: I went and saw RLAG last week with my partner Sharyn? and we were both impressed with the movie from a number of angles.... acting, cinematography, closeness to actual storyline but most of all characterisation. I think Stevie stole the show from Michelle and his resemblance to himself was uncanny ??Now i know Darren Weir has lost the respect of all in the racing industry (for good reason) but he still came across as a very decent bloke who gave Stevie his big break and hence started the association between POP and Michelle. IMHO a must see Aussie movie of international standard.?ANSent on the go with Vodafone -------- Original message --------From: "L.B.Loveday" Date: 6/10/19 8:32 am (GMT+10:00) To: racing at ausrace.com Subject: [AusRace] (no subject) High-profile racing women dug deep to make Payne film a winnerKatie Page and Gai Waterhouse were among the silent backers determined to turn Michelle Payne bio-pic Ride Like A Girl into a hit movieAnnette Sharp, Sydney Confidential, The Sunday TelegraphSubscriber only| High-profile women in horseracing ? and keen to promote an Australian legend and women in sport ? are among the silent backers of popular new Australian feature film, Ride Like A Girl. Businesswoman Katie Page, the CEO of Harvey Norman, co-founder of yearling sales Magic Millions and wife of Gerry Harvey said she couldn?t think of a better place to put her money than into a locally made film that would help make a legend of Melbourne Cup-winning jockey Michelle Payne.?What an extraordinary movie and an extraordinary story,? she said, confirming she was quick to join a syndicate of silent backers who tipped money into the project after filmmaker and actor Rachel Griffiths and her co-producers started passing the cap around after acquiring the rights to Payne?s book following Payne?s historic Melbourne Cup victory on Pirates Of Penzance in 2015.?Teresa Palmer as Michelle Payne in a scene from Ride Like A Girl.Page is dedicated to promoting women in sport and in racing and created a sponsorship program that set aside 10 $5000 sponsorships for women?s sporting clubs.Another racing pioneer said to have opened her private chequebook to ensure Michelle Payne?s is Australian Turf Club vice-chair Julia Ritchie.Owner and trainer Ritchie was the first female board member on the AJC board and her appointment to the ATC chair in 2014 shook the foundations of the male-dominated club when she was voted in.Ritchie, the daughter of trainer Bill Ritchie of Bangaloe Stud and owner of Golden Slipper winner Vancouver, may have been playing coy about her investment yesterday and couldn?t be reached for comment.Harvey Norman CEO Katie Page has seen the movie twice.Ritchie?s love of film stretches back through the years to when she worked in the film industry which is where she met Griffiths who still calls Ritchie a close friend.Another outspoken supporter of the film is Australian trainer Gai Waterhouse.Waterhouse, who attended a glamorous preview of the film at the Orpheum Theatre two weeks ago with a group of eight including husband Robbie, son Tom and jockey Hugh Bowman, said she too has a keen interest in the film.?A couple of my strappers are in the movie,? she said on Friday, confirming she is behind the project and behind Payne, who has ridden for her.?I think they needed quite a lot of extras for it, so my strappers pitched in to lend a hand.?Payne too is affiliated with the Waterhouses through racing ? and Robbie Waterhouse has the sense Gai may have given Payne some excellent advice about how to win during the women?s work together.?Trainer Gai Waterhouse. Picture: AAPVice-chair of the ATC Julia Ritchie.?Gai told her to get low in the saddle,? said Robbie, advice that might have helped her bring home the Cup in 2015.?Michelle has been one of my jockeys on a number of occasions,? said Gai. ?She rode for me. How can you not love this story ? it?s a wonderful story.?Waterhouse proclaimed the racing scenes in Ride Like A Girl to be ?second to none? ? high praise from the Tulloch Lodge trainer, regarded as the leading female force in the game.?A good film leaves you with a good feeling and this certainly did,? she said.Page said she?d seen the movie twice and had left crying both times.?I cry every time I see it and when I saw it, on both occasions, when Michelle Payne?s character crosses the line everyone in the cinema got up on their feet and cheered. It?s just so moving. Even Gerry was moved. And you know Gerry?? she added, an eye-roll implied.Producers were looking to raise $5 million from the private sector to get the low-budget feature made.Ride LIke A Girl director Rachel Griffiths. Picture: GettyFurther funding came from Screen Australia via its Gender Matters: Brilliant Stories program, an initiative which gets behind women?s stories and women working in the industry. To win the private backing of women in business, was an added coup.Griffiths and producer Susie Montague are also believed to have invested in the movie.At this stage it looks to have been money well spent, with Ride Like A Girl on its way to becoming the highest grossing Australian film of the year, with almost $3 million taken at the box office last week.?racing at ausrace.com? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From norsaintpublishing at gmail.com Mon Oct 7 07:49:28 2019 From: norsaintpublishing at gmail.com (norsaintpublishing at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2019 07:49:28 +1100 Subject: [AusRace] Jamestown Cup In-Reply-To: <000901d57c22$57688ea0$0639abe0$@tpg.com.au> References: <000d01d57c1c$61f4a850$25ddf8f0$@ozemail.com.au> <000901d57c22$57688ea0$0639abe0$@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: Are you staying long enough for the Cup, Len? On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 at 19:45, wrote: > Len > > > > Welcome back to PC Australia! > > I have the same problem with my wife and she is not yet 80yo! > > She cannot drink from a can or a bottle ? I once offered her a teat ? > never again. > > We did have a lovely seafood lunch on the Hobart waterfront today but I > notice a nearby popular leftist restaurant now welcomes dogs -yuk! > > > > MIke > _______________________________________________ > Racing mailing list > Racing at ausrace.com > http://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lloveday at ozemail.com.au Mon Oct 7 07:54:28 2019 From: lloveday at ozemail.com.au (L.B.Loveday) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2019 07:54:28 +1100 Subject: [AusRace] Jamestown Cup In-Reply-To: References: <000d01d57c1c$61f4a850$25ddf8f0$@ozemail.com.au> <000901d57c22$57688ea0$0639abe0$@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <004501d57c88$3ea5d6f0$bbf184d0$@ozemail.com.au> Currently tied up looking after mother; unlikely. From: Racing On Behalf Of norsaintpublishing at gmail.com Sent: Monday, 7 October 2019 7:49 AM To: AusRace Racing Discussion List Subject: Re: [AusRace] Jamestown Cup Are you staying long enough for the Cup, Len? On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 at 19:45, > wrote: Len Welcome back to PC Australia! I have the same problem with my wife and she is not yet 80yo! She cannot drink from a can or a bottle ? I once offered her a teat ? never again. We did have a lovely seafood lunch on the Hobart waterfront today but I notice a nearby popular leftist restaurant now welcomes dogs -yuk! MIke _______________________________________________ Racing mailing list Racing at ausrace.com http://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From greg.j.conroy at gmail.com Mon Oct 7 08:13:44 2019 From: greg.j.conroy at gmail.com (Greg Conroy) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2019 08:13:44 +1100 Subject: [AusRace] Front Page System - a system In-Reply-To: <000001d55ce1$bba9ebd0$32fdc370$@bigpond.com> References: <000001d55ce1$bba9ebd0$32fdc370$@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <2c24ca89-0aa9-4a16-8edf-1b0ba82786e9@Spark> Nice to see Allen receive a mention. I worked with him for many years (until he retired) but continued to correspond with him until he passed away. He was also one of the first people to join www.rewardbet.com when I opened it up just to a few in the industry. Every Melbourne Cup we?d (all his friends) receive his ?Melbourne Cup Email? where he applied a number of various mechanical system checks to attempt to provide us all the winner. Great guy - one memory of him was when I was walking back from lunch with him in Harris Street, Ultimo (where NSW TAB/Tab Limited) Head Office was ? and he stopped to pick up a random bolt in the street. I looked at him and he said, ?I?ll keep that, never know when it?ll come in handy!? Cheers, Greg On 28 Aug 2019, 12:15 AM +1000, Tony Moffat , wrote: > And variation on a theme. > > Allen Windross wrote a thesis about gambling. It is available online, see: > Betting by the Book - a study of systems adopted by bettors > University of Western Sydney published March 2002. Mr Windross was CEO of > TAB NSW and was an advocate of education for the punting masses. > > The Front Page system was developed, and written about, in the thesis, as > were other plans (systems) but the Front Page was the only one developed, > and offered for use. > > Without divulging anything much, your selection comes from the runner with a > good jockey, a good trainer, a good last start finish, a good barrier, and a > morning line price assessment under $21. It selected a runner in each race, > you eliminated others using the rules until a single pick arrived. It > worked, very well, assisted by a few long(er) priced winners early in the > piece under review. > > The morning line price assessment clause is puzzling, a little, when surely > the price is composed of elements like last start finish position, barrier, > jockey, trainer so are we not doubling down on them? > > Anyways, there is a thesis on this, and we didn't write it so what do we > know? > > BethelHall Publishing have a system similar to the Front Page System, except > it pre-dates it by 30 years, more. In a hand assembled booklet, with > oversized stapling, there are 3 pages of magic words, and 7 pages of ready > to be used work sheets, one race to a page. > > Consider barriers out to 9 only. Ignore runners wider than 9 - so 10,11 etc. > Consider last start finish positions out to ninth last start- 0 finish can > be considered a ninth, it is plain the horse hasn't fired at all last start > Rank the jockeys this race from their PLACE record. > Rank runners this race from their PLACE record. > Rank runners this race from their pre post price. > > The rankings were ADDED together and the runner with the least points total > is the selection. There is no information about how to remove ties. > > Again, there is the price aspect as the final scoreline. Barriers figure > loudly in systems, wide barriers are destructive to the chances of runners > apparently. The author(s) write that all of the requested information is > available in the fields pages of 'good' papers of the day. The place record > of runners is one aspect which would not be readily available I am thinking. > > Scone R1 1st 1.4 > Mornington R1 1st 2.10 > MacKay R1 Trifecta in 1st 3 > Mornington R2 1st 2.20 > Mackay R2 1st 1.40 > Mornington R5 1st 2.50 > Scone R7 1st 2.10 > Mackay R6 1st 1.80 > The last races for Mackay > Scone and Mornington failed to score a winner. > Every other race seemed to have the winner in the first 2/3 > Those listed here are 1st picks. > > Cheers > > Tony > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Racing mailing list > Racing at ausrace.com > http://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From greg.j.conroy at gmail.com Mon Oct 7 21:41:15 2019 From: greg.j.conroy at gmail.com (Greg Conroy) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2019 21:41:15 +1100 Subject: [AusRace] Seen Better? 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 14774 bytes Desc: not available URL: From tonymoffat at bigpond.com Sat Oct 19 12:43:54 2019 From: tonymoffat at bigpond.com (Tony Moffat) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2019 09:43:54 +0800 Subject: [AusRace] The Bookmaker - calculations in racing Message-ID: <000a01d5861e$abc2f840$0348e8c0$@bigpond.com> Or is it a system? This was distributed by Equestrian Publishing and is a well-made book (many are not so well made) with proper binding. The author(s) are unknown. Each runner is evaluated under many form rules, a value decided and applied, and the whole form line summed and compared with the others. Various weights/values are attributed to each item examined. 'Raced within 14 days' has a value of 150 so that each runner which has that attribute shares in a positive 150, say 10 runners, and each get a score of 15. Runners who have not raced within 14 days get a negative value, say 4 runners, so they each get minus 37.5. Placed in first 4 last start has a value of 175. Won on the course has a low value, won over the distance (anywhere) has a high value. The jockey share 100 Weight is scored out of 95. There are calculations and corrections for each handicapping factor mentioned. These are Raced within 28 days Raced within 14 days Won in last 3 starts Placed in last 3 starts Placed in first 4 last start Won on course Won over distance Can handle track conditions (low score) Barrier positions (low score) Acceptable jockey Weight Down in class Up in class And of course the pre-post market There are blank worksheets in the book and each of my copies (I have three) have assiduously applied workouts on some of the pages. 01/09/1979 Rosehill R2 when Jewel Flight, Gay Colleen, Tialinta were selected by this method. There is no explanation as to how the various values were decided, from 20 to 175 overall, each varied. It must have been tedious, and seemed so scientific I'm sure in the mid '70's. Today I would calculate an impact value(relative frequency) and apply the score to those over 1 (neutral) and those under. Today Caulfield Cup Hartnell, Vow and Declare, Mustajeer, The Chosen One. Everest: Classique Legend,Trekking,Pierate, Santa Ana Lane. For information only. Cheers Tony -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com From tonymoffat at bigpond.com Sun Oct 20 01:27:17 2019 From: tonymoffat at bigpond.com (Tony Moffat) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2019 22:27:17 +0800 Subject: [AusRace] Asniak Betting Tables - a system Message-ID: <001601d58689$4ff53850$efdfa8f0$@bigpond.com> Asniak is American (aka Francisco) but lived in Australia (Pitt Town Bottoms - yes that is the locality name) and these tables were published here. They may be a copy of a similar set published by several other persons (including Gamblers Book Club) and are identical to the theories espoused by Adkin Abott (see The Abbott email) Asniak advises that NO runner deserves to be priced longer than 8/1 (11.11%) all things considered, although the tables only consider the individual runners, not an overall, all runner score. The last three finishing positions of each runner are considered. The finish position number is divided into 100, in each case, and that quotient is again divided by three. So a finish position of 6 would score 100/6/3 = 5.55 and that number is ADDED to the other results calculations for that runner. 642 = 100/6/3+100/4/3+100/2/3 = 5.55+ 8.33 + 16.55= 30.43. The form figure 642 has a calculated price of 100/30.43 = 3.30 = 2.30/1. The worst is form figures of 999 (100/9/3 =3.70+3.70+3.70 = 11.1) 8/1 (100/11.1 =9 - 1, 8/1) 642 has a quotient of 30.43, as does 624,462,426,246,264. It seems to be a mechanical mathematical thing. The overs are built in when you use these numbers. In the Caulfield Cup winner Mer De Glace had 111(100) and was first pick, 2nd pick Vow and Declare had 214 (58.33) as did Gold Mount (eq.2nd,off 412), 3rd pick Finche (56.67,512) was unplaced and fourth pick was Mustajeer and Wolfe. The values, in order, are 100+58.33+58.33(equals)+56.67+51.11+51.11= 375.55 so 100/375.55 to get the reduction ratio = 0.266. Are you keeping up? Now multiply those values with the reduction ratio to get their calculated prices 100*.266 ($3.75) - it won paying $7.70, 2nd 58.33*.266 = $6.40, paying $7.80, and the equal second was paying $28.90 (7.80 place) Back in the day Asniak did not have the benefit of Excel/Lotus and so the purpose of the tables, a ready reckoner which had a calculator explanation also.. The reason for the division by three is not discussed, nor is the reason for any of it really except it seems to work, most times. The last three finish positions only are considered. Ignore spells, dnf, trials, only the runners efforts in a race are used. Another way again Cheers Tony -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com From lloveday at ozemail.com.au Sun Oct 20 08:36:55 2019 From: lloveday at ozemail.com.au (L.B.Loveday) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2019 08:36:55 +1100 Subject: [AusRace] Wagga 6 19/10 Message-ID: <000001d586c5$54283c60$fc78b520$@ozemail.com.au> How difficult is it to have a simple program check for duplicate jockeys? TAB Tatts WA TAB Dynamic Odds -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 42976 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Janet Fife-Yeomans, Exclusive, The Daily Telegraph Subscriber only * Former racing boss gives evidence in betting fraud trial Professional punter Stephen Fletcher celebrated another win yesterday, this time against the NSW Police when one of the state's biggest- betting fraud cases was thrown out of court. Nicknamed "The Professor" for his ability to calculate odds, Mr Fletcher faced trial on 78 counts of fraudulently using the accounts of friends, allegedly including two cops, to place bets ranging- from $9 to tens of thousands. The high roller, who once pulled off a legal $1 million betting sting, needed the so-called "bowler" accounts because his own account had been closed by one of the online betting agencies, Bet365, and restrictions placed on him by another, Sportingbet, the District Court was told. Stephen Fletcher outside Rockpool Bar and Grill in Sydney. Picture: Sam Ruttyn But Judge Sophia Beckett found the prosecution had failed to prove that Mr Fletcher- had dishonestly obtained a financial advantage by using the accounts to place bets - because it still depended on whether the horses or greyhounds won. It was an embarrassment for the police and the prosecution after a case that involved raids on the offices of the Homicide Squad, a hearing before the then Police Integrity Commission and a six-year investigation- involving extensive telephone taps. "The financial advantage did not arise until the horse or dog he placed a bet on won," Judge Beckett said after discharging the jury following- a four-week trial and directing verdicts of acquittal-. "There is no evidence- the accused had any influence over that result. Sometimes he won, sometimes he lost." The flamboyant Mr Fletcher, 47, celebrated with friends including racing and sporting stars, at lunch at top Sydney eatery Rockpool with champagne and an up-market pork chop meal. "I'm relieved," the prodigious gambler who pocketed more than $330,000 in winnings through the two-year scheme, said. "I am indebted to my legal team." Before yesterday, his biggest win under the scheme came in February 2013 when he got $56,000 from a $1600 wager on Alma's Fury at Warwick Farm. Judge Beckett said that at its highest, the evidence painted a picture of Mr Fletcher at the centre of an organised "cat and mouse" game between himself and the bookmakers where he stayed one step ahead, moving to the next "bowler" account when the bookmaker became suspicious. Bookies did not like it because they did not know from whom they were accepting a bet which prevented them from adjusting their odds accordingly or limiting the bets, the court was told. Fletcher and brothel owner Eddie Hayson pulled off a $1m betting sting in 2005. Hayson. Under Mr Fletcher's scheme, the bets ranged from regional races in Australia to overseas markets like Hong Kong and allegedly involved the accounts of one homicide officer, one officer from the Tactical Operations Unit and friends including Christopher Wylie and Edward Ridgeway, neither of whom have been charged. Mr Fletcher's defence team had argued that the people whose accounts he used had given him authority to operate them and that the accepted practice was that corporate bookmakers accepted bets irrespective of who placed them including if they knew or suspected them of being "bowler" accounts-. The two police officers and another professional gambler allegedly involved in the scheme have separate trials coming up. In 2005, Mr Fletcher and brothel owner Eddie Hayson famously pulled off the $1 million Lucy's Light sting, named after the winning greyhound, on the Gold Coast by legally manipulating tote prices to create an exaggerated payout price from corporate bookmakers. In 2006 the betting partners won an estimated $2 million when they bet on the Newcastle Knights to lose to the Warriors. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robbie at robbiewaterhouse.com Wed Oct 23 07:44:42 2019 From: robbie at robbiewaterhouse.com (Robbie Waterhouse) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 07:44:42 +1100 Subject: [AusRace] Fletch wins In-Reply-To: <001a01d58913$a44c5eb0$ece51c10$@ozemail.com.au> References: <001a01d58913$a44c5eb0$ece51c10$@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <01bd01d58919$8871ba40$99552ec0$@robbiewaterhouse.com> Stephen Fletcher fraud trial dismissed for lack of evidence Nicknamed "The Professor" for his ability to calculate odds, Stephen Fletcher celebrated a big win against NSW Police yesterday after facing trial on 78 counts of fraudulently using his friends' betting accounts. Janet Fife-Yeomans, Exclusive, The Daily Telegraph Subscriber only | October 23, 2019 6:16am dailytelegraph.com.au1:19 The gaming trend unlocking child gambling The gaming industry's hottest trend is now its biggest problem. Consumers and Governments are growing concerned for the ... * Former racing boss gives evidence in betting fraud trial Professional punter Stephen Fletcher celebrated another win yesterday, this time against the NSW Police when one of the state's biggest- betting fraud cases was thrown out of court. Nicknamed "The Professor" for his ability to calculate odds, Mr Fletcher faced trial on 78 counts of fraudulently using the accounts of friends, allegedly including two cops, to place bets ranging- from $9 to tens of thousands. The high roller, who once pulled off a legal $1 million betting sting, needed the so-called "bowler" accounts because his own account had been closed by one of the online betting agencies, Bet365, and restrictions placed on him by another, Sportingbet, the District Court was told. Stephen Fletcher outside Rockpool Bar and Grill in Sydney. Picture: Sam Ruttyn But Judge Sophia Beckett found the prosecution had failed to prove that Mr Fletcher- had dishonestly obtained a financial advantage by using the accounts to place bets - because it still depended on whether the horses or greyhounds won. It was an embarrassment for the police and the prosecution after a case that involved raids on the offices of the Homicide Squad, a hearing before the then Police Integrity Commission and a six-year investigation- involving extensive telephone taps. "The financial advantage did not arise until the horse or dog he placed a bet on won," Judge Beckett said after discharging the jury following- a four-week trial and directing verdicts of acquittal-. "There is no evidence- the accused had any influence over that result. Sometimes he won, sometimes he lost." The flamboyant Mr Fletcher, 47, celebrated with friends including racing and sporting stars, at lunch at top Sydney eatery Rockpool with champagne and an up-market pork chop meal. "I'm relieved," the prodigious gambler who pocketed more than $330,000 in winnings through the two-year scheme, said. "I am indebted to my legal team." Before yesterday, his biggest win under the scheme came in February 2013 when he got $56,000 from a $1600 wager on Alma's Fury at Warwick Farm. Judge Beckett said that at its highest, the evidence painted a picture of Mr Fletcher at the centre of an organised "cat and mouse" game between himself and the bookmakers where he stayed one step ahead, moving to the next "bowler" account when the bookmaker became suspicious. Bookies did not like it because they did not know from whom they were accepting a bet which prevented them from adjusting their odds accordingly or limiting the bets, the court was told. Fletcher and brothel owner Eddie Hayson pulled off a $1m betting sting in 2005. Hayson. Under Mr Fletcher's scheme, the bets ranged from regional races in Australia to overseas markets like Hong Kong and allegedly involved the accounts of one homicide officer, one officer from the Tactical Operations Unit and friends including Christopher Wylie and Edward Ridgeway, neither of whom have been charged. Mr Fletcher's defence team had argued that the people whose accounts he used had given him authority to operate them and that the accepted practice was that corporate bookmakers accepted bets irrespective of who placed them including if they knew or suspected them of being "bowler" accounts-. The two police officers and another professional gambler allegedly involved in the scheme have separate trials coming up. In 2005, Mr Fletcher and brothel owner Eddie Hayson famously pulled off the $1 million Lucy's Light sting, named after the winning greyhound, on the Gold Coast by legally manipulating tote prices to create an exaggerated payout price from corporate bookmakers. In 2006 the betting partners won an estimated $2 million when they bet on the Newcastle Knights to lose to the Warriors. From: Racing On Behalf Of L.B.Loveday Sent: Wednesday, 23 October 2019 7:03 AM To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' Subject: [AusRace] Fletch wins Stephen Fletcher fraud trial dismissed for lack of evidence Nicknamed "The Professor" for his ability to calculate odds, Stephen Fletcher celebrated a big win against NSW Police yesterday after facing trial on 78 counts of fraudulently using his friends' betting accounts. Janet Fife-Yeomans, Exclusive, The Daily Telegraph Subscriber only * Former racing boss gives evidence in betting fraud trial Professional punter Stephen Fletcher celebrated another win yesterday, this time against the NSW Police when one of the state's biggest- betting fraud cases was thrown out of court. Nicknamed "The Professor" for his ability to calculate odds, Mr Fletcher faced trial on 78 counts of fraudulently using the accounts of friends, allegedly including two cops, to place bets ranging- from $9 to tens of thousands. The high roller, who once pulled off a legal $1 million betting sting, needed the so-called "bowler" accounts because his own account had been closed by one of the online betting agencies, Bet365, and restrictions placed on him by another, Sportingbet, the District Court was told. Stephen Fletcher outside Rockpool Bar and Grill in Sydney. Picture: Sam Ruttyn But Judge Sophia Beckett found the prosecution had failed to prove that Mr Fletcher- had dishonestly obtained a financial advantage by using the accounts to place bets - because it still depended on whether the horses or greyhounds won. It was an embarrassment for the police and the prosecution after a case that involved raids on the offices of the Homicide Squad, a hearing before the then Police Integrity Commission and a six-year investigation- involving extensive telephone taps. "The financial advantage did not arise until the horse or dog he placed a bet on won," Judge Beckett said after discharging the jury following- a four-week trial and directing verdicts of acquittal-. "There is no evidence- the accused had any influence over that result. Sometimes he won, sometimes he lost." The flamboyant Mr Fletcher, 47, celebrated with friends including racing and sporting stars, at lunch at top Sydney eatery Rockpool with champagne and an up-market pork chop meal. "I'm relieved," the prodigious gambler who pocketed more than $330,000 in winnings through the two-year scheme, said. "I am indebted to my legal team." Before yesterday, his biggest win under the scheme came in February 2013 when he got $56,000 from a $1600 wager on Alma's Fury at Warwick Farm. Judge Beckett said that at its highest, the evidence painted a picture of Mr Fletcher at the centre of an organised "cat and mouse" game between himself and the bookmakers where he stayed one step ahead, moving to the next "bowler" account when the bookmaker became suspicious. Bookies did not like it because they did not know from whom they were accepting a bet which prevented them from adjusting their odds accordingly or limiting the bets, the court was told. Fletcher and brothel owner Eddie Hayson pulled off a $1m betting sting in 2005. Hayson. Under Mr Fletcher's scheme, the bets ranged from regional races in Australia to overseas markets like Hong Kong and allegedly involved the accounts of one homicide officer, one officer from the Tactical Operations Unit and friends including Christopher Wylie and Edward Ridgeway, neither of whom have been charged. Mr Fletcher's defence team had argued that the people whose accounts he used had given him authority to operate them and that the accepted practice was that corporate bookmakers accepted bets irrespective of who placed them including if they knew or suspected them of being "bowler" accounts-. The two police officers and another professional gambler allegedly involved in the scheme have separate trials coming up. In 2005, Mr Fletcher and brothel owner Eddie Hayson famously pulled off the $1 million Lucy's Light sting, named after the winning greyhound, on the Gold Coast by legally manipulating tote prices to create an exaggerated payout price from corporate bookmakers. In 2006 the betting partners won an estimated $2 million when they bet on the Newcastle Knights to lose to the Warriors. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We had Ragozin and his bounce theory previously - a good effort(<4) may be followed by lesser one(>4), at least, and likely another lesser run before a horse finds its' form again (this is his theory). Antithesis reverses the bounce theory, a little, saying a poor run is corrected often by a better run next time, a 9 finish into a 2nd or 3rd would be a typical scenario and with a heightened place dividend, just off the 9th finish. The next run, the 2nd start after the shocker, may be an improvement also, at least it won't be a 9th. This the basis of the Plan, the 2nd run after a poor outing can be expected to be a peak (of sorts). The Everest: Trekking was one qualifier, 8th followed by 1 (which proves the rule somewhat) and the sole candidate, 3rd $6.80 Caulfield Cup: 4,16 qualified -fail There were others that scored - Miss Leonidas, Life Less Ordinary, Dealmaker, High Cost, Better Reflection, Zac Attack, Heavens Deal, Octane, Rolling Reign, Phantom Shadow, Plaisir, Fussdinado, Time Stalker, Wil John, Toots is Tops, Perfect Peace, Lucky Plutus, Toymark, Graceful Gift, Serena on Court, Ellofarock, and there were 14 or so no shows, most of those as secondary picks (the second in a race when the other qualifier scored) and sometimes there were two dividends in a race. Sorry, not involved enough, perhaps not enough decimal points? - for those read this https://research-repository.griffith.edu.au/handle/10072/366832 The TracInvest Macro in Excelspeak is included which is good, real good - thanks to them. The reference/bibliography helps also cheers Tony -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com