[AusRace] Everywhere Winona

Mon Jan 14 15:16:27 AEDT 2019

Hi Rob,
These days I suspect most jockeys are fit (bar those off injury) due to the
enormous number of rides most have these days. Assuming 90 something percent
are fit (as I write this I see my paunch hanging over the shorts) so it must
come back to the horses initially AND the way they are ridden.  If the
trainer has the horse fit it's a big start as no jockey in the world can win
on an unfit horse. If a fit  horse races near the lead life is definitely
simpler for all but it is the get back types that are the biggest concern
and this is where the jockey comes more in the equation than the trainer,
stats wise, as they must assess the speed up front. The top Syd jockeys such
as Bowman, McDonald and McEvoy seem to arrive in the nick of time as, of
course, our locals in Melb often do (llie, Williams, Lane). They must have
"clocks" in their head.
I remember Frank Reys once stating that his mentor Ray Hutchins? would not
let him ride in a race until Frank could tell him the exact time to the
second and close fractions in track work what time had been run.

I am getting off the topic a bit but Rob you know the success of Gai with
Stephen Baster in Melbourne. Top trainer (and great wife of course) with a
fit horse and the right jockey for the type of horse (on pacer/leaders) is a
big start. S Baster would not be in many punters top 20 jockeys but with the
right trainer providing the right horses his POT on the 136 rides for Gai in
Vic over the last couple of years is fantastic.
Roman Koz

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From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of Rob Waterhouse
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Len,

I suspect fitness level play a key part. For many jocks, a bit of trackwork,
race rides and golf is their fitness program. Others train very hard.

Rob W

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From: Racing <racing-bounces at ausrace.com> On Behalf Of L.B.Loveday
Sent: Monday, 14 January 2019 1:40 PM
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An alternative possibility - JC was joint top apprentice with HWhite,
success went to his head (hello Ms Payne) then got a bit wild/distracted and
that showed in his riding. Would hardly be the first young man to so do.

He then got engaged, then married, "saw the light", settled down and became
a top jockey. Again, would hardly be the first young man to have the
responsibility of marriage return his nose to the grindstone.

LBL  

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Sent: Monday, 14 January 2019 8:18 AM
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Hi all,
I am with Lindsay. Over the years (make that decades) have seen many
instances of the jockey dropping off the radar if a trainer or trainer drops
them and vice versa. It's really the trainers job to match the horse with an
appropriate jockey, if they have half a brain, if possible. I still cannot
get out of my mind a jockey called Jim Courtney. I think he married into the
CS Hayes family but one year he rode 3 winners in Melbourne and the
following year was the top rider in Adelaide. Rides from CS Hayes, for sure,
made the difference. You could argue the SA jockeys weren't that flash but
that would be nonsense simply because JC by his wins in Vic must have fitted
into the mediocre jockey list.
Roman

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Hi Tony,
Just my opinion, but the trainers seem more important than the jockeys, if
one looks at the top jockeys, they are riding for the top stables.
If the stable is on fire, makes the jockeys look good and the same can be
said when the stable is struggling (even top stables) due to a myriad of
reasons .
Lindsay

-----Original Message-----
From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of Tony Moffat
Sent: Sunday, 13 January 2019 11:22 AM
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Subject: [AusRace] Everywhere Winona

Winona Costin has been busy, in Tasmania for a couple of days recently and
today in NZ, yesterday Kembla (if it was running), and tomorrow in Nowra

She has been on a few by Gai, with success also.

I don't factor in jockeys but do rate them and she is average, which isn't a
bad place, as so many are not when scored off their endeavours which is
directly tied to their mounts I know.

Cheers

Tony

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