[AusRace] They never let up re crops, do they?

L.B.Loveday lloveday at ozemail.com.au
Fri Nov 30 11:11:57 AEDT 2018


Mike,

 

Of course discussion of the use of the crop is appropriate, and in these times arguments need to be readied - make no mistake that the aim of the self-proclaimed elite is to ban not just the crop, but racing (we saw the forerunner in the NSW Greyhound farce), along with making all into toy-soldier types, marching in step to their command - what to eat, what to say, what to believe……

 

Personal abuse has never bothered me, nor does resorting to puerile comments about being from Adelaide; I just find them pathetic. ZR is the issue of Croatian immigrants who lived in Tasmania and has not written any books - why ever would he? - so let's have incest comments? I'm told the great Alan Rowland wrote a book, but have not seen it (nor looked), and apart from him there is Scott that I know of from contemporary(ish) punters.

 

The racing books I have enjoyed have been those by the likes of George E Smith, through to Sam Lewin to Bill Waterhouse, books that also tell a story of the man's life - stats I can, and do, produce by the ream. I regularly dispose of a box containing 2,500 pages (well that’s how many the boxes contain when I buy a carton of  new paper), and the Missus groans about my office table groaning under stacks of daily analyses - they collect dust and insect stools apparently - and have so often shown that published stats are wrong, albeit often slightly (and 5% margin is, imo, what a punter can reasonably obtain, so accuracy is paramount), that I never believe them until I test. 

 

Scott's books I bought and read thoroughly and they were a help, but perversely in helping me realise what not to do. They were selling rating sheets from memory (certainly many people were using them, whether purchased or hand-readied), people were filling them in with similar information, and coming to similar conclusions, and I realised that I had to be unique. Remember when Dominic Beirne had indicators on Sky that a tip was available for purchase? Too many punters killed the price after a while. I've been buying The Rating Bureau's data for 30 years - service and data  great - to determine my bets via programs I have written myself, and .

 

I prefer George E Smith's approach to staking to Scott's "Show me the man who can class horses correctly and I will show you the man who can win all the money he wants, and he only needs a dollar to start with", which he says was one of the greatest truths ever uttered about horseracing, and Sean Bartholemew's "Get as much money on as you can at the best odds you can". Of course MBL has severely restricted staking plans for many punters anyway, if betting off-course. Not to mention some corporates' failure to adhere to the law, and the authorities' refusal to enforce it. Eg, I was cut back to $73.73 @ 5.10 the place at 10:25am today; even BetZero would set to win $404; for all their faults, they do strictly obey the law. 

 

Some mock Scott for allegedly ending up broke; I'd rather his life than theirs; being successful at winning money does not mean one is, or should be, successful at accumulating money, indeed many don't have any desire to accumulate and leave it behind!

 

I was going to  do a Scotty (as your post did not come through to me, I accessed it from the archives far too late to comment pre-race), and say I'd have set you right about One Morning - I had it rated no-where - but thought I'd better do a manual check first. First starter so my program has all-but no data to go by (I know you went by a barrier trial, but I don't consider them as "anything goes"). Then I looked at Devil's Rain and saw it was a first-starter also, as was #10, but at 60/1. I leave first starters alone. Period.

 

 

LBL,

 

 

Roger, Len, Lindsay & All

 

 

Perhaps I am the strange one but I consider a discussion on the use of the whip and its effect on horses and Jockeys and Punters as an important part of horse racing and quite appropriate in this forum.

 

 

I also enjoy Len’s thoughts on all matters racing and punting as I do Lindsay’s expertise on horses and handling and as I do most of Roger’s books on the subject.

 

 

What I do not like is when Ausracers revert to personal slanging matches on any forum especially this long standing one.

 

 

We are all a little guilty of lack of contributions on racing but Len less so than the rest of us.

 

 

Having got that off my chest I do think T’was One Morning has a great chance in Race 1 at Pakenham today following an good recent Barrier Trial.

 

 

Mike.

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