[AusRace] Crafty Cruiser

Sun Nov 11 22:45:06 AEDT 2018

Roman who? An unregular?

On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 18:09 Roman, <kozza1950 at bigpond.com> wrote:

> Hi Ausracers,
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> Looks like a few of the old regulars are still on the site.
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> I love horses like Crafty Cruiser – they might be battle weary but gee
> they have a go. CC is just a few 1000 of winning $1 million. What a horse.
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> Roman
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> *From:* Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] *On Behalf Of *Rob
> Waterhouse
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 10, 2018 9:24 AM
> *To:* 'AusRace Racing Discussion List'
> *Subject:* Re: [AusRace] Crafty Cruiser
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> Great you are alive and well!
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> Rob W
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> *From:* Racing <racing-bounces at ausrace.com> *On Behalf Of *Roger Biggs
> *Sent:* Saturday, 10 November 2018 9:15 AM
> *To:* racing at ausrace.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AusRace] Crafty Cruiser
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> CRAFTY CRUISER
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> My wee d/b (+/- 15 yrs) shows 1877 11 YO's for 67 wins (WSR 3.57% POT
> -65.18%)
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> at an AvTAB of $9.76. Careful, though, these stats encompass all race
> fields, all going,
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> all distances etc etc
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> Never mind, CC ...... ran 3rd at TAB $9.40/$2.10.
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> Interesting to note that examining 8 - 10 field, $9 - $10 TAB the WSR
> holds at +/- 8.25%
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> up to 9yr olds then it drops off very fast to around 3.25%
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> But ..... these are just interesting numbers, nothing to do with the
> running of a horse-race 😁
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> On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 at 06:38, L.B.Loveday <lloveday at ozemail.com.au> wrote:
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> Last year, 2017, there were 196 11yo runs, for 3 wins.
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> 1296 runners for 5 wins sounds very wrong - that would make them incredible
> lays.
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> Risa must ignore many races for their calculations that TRB includes - TRB
> provide results of races big and small - 41 meetings on MC day.
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> I make it 9851 runners 8yo or older for 679 winners in 2017, a vast
> discrepancy from 1296/5. At Mainland Metro alone I make it 1270 for 60
> winners.
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> As always, statistics are only as accurate as my data bases and my
> programming!
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Racing <racing-bounces at ausrace.com> On Behalf Of Tony Moffat
> Sent: Friday, 9 November 2018 10:45 PM
> To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com>
> Subject: Re: [AusRace] Crafty Cruiser
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> Hi Len
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> http://publishingservices.risa.com.au/otherpublications/Factbook%202016-2017
> /83/#zoom=z
> I got my data here - capped at 2017 season though.
> It seems there were 1296 runners aged 8yo+ and they won 5 races.
> The year before there were more runners for 3 successes.
> These  are wins. Sometimes, presumably , they run, not for first, or any
> place but for the runner prize which can be $2400 just for going around,
> nice work if you can get it, and that $2.4K buys a whack of hay, I know.
>
> I reckon we could be justified in ignoring them somewhat, the aged.
>
> I missed the race tonight - gardening.
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> Cheers
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> Tony
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of L.B.Loveday
> Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 6:10 PM
> To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com>
> Subject: Re: [AusRace] Crafty Cruiser
>
> Tony,
>
> Quite a year for 11yos - 48 unique 11yos have run according to my
> TRB-supplied database, being the most in any calendar year since and
> including 1995 and there are weeks to go. They have contested 255 races for
> 15 wins (after CC today, 256; there was another 11yo in the same race,
> Knucklemanna, but it was scratched), returning $105 at $1 SP - pretty easy
> to see why I give them a big negative.
>
> LBL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Racing <racing-bounces at ausrace.com> On Behalf Of Tony Moffat
> Sent: Friday, 9 November 2018 7:12 PM
> To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com>
> Subject: [AusRace] Crafty Cruiser
>
> Crafty Cruiser
> Cranbourne Race 4 tonight 2000 hours local It seems this greybeard has been
> with us at the races for years - essentially it has been.
> He runs tonight for his 141 start and is 11 years old and ridden by Corey
> Parish, him with that flamboyant whipping action of his.
> Sadly CC does not seem to figure in any sums for the race, neither the
> tipsters nor the form, weight, money schemes or workouts can promote him to
> the fore, not even fourth or fifth or sixth in some rankings.
> The old boy has average earnt $5000 each time he has fronted and remains
> fit, and healthy it  seems, and always seems keen and alert and well
> mannered. He must have a licence to race because I thought they were
> stopping them at 9 years old, the comfort clause, unless there were special
> reasons for it to run on.
> I think 141 starts is a good point to stop now. There is an apprehension
> now
> each time he goes round, did he get in okay, well that's what I feel any
> way.
> The form seems to be with 6,3,4, and 8.
> The before and now money choices might be 5,6,3, and two and there are lots
> of touches for him on the corporate sites, three I use have him written
> up(flucs) 44 times - I'm not sure that is an accurate indicator, for
> anything actually, except for the clerk who is trying to entice some money
> for it.
> For what it's worth I hope he wins, then retires - there is a paddock here
> if needs be, he can share with the Bonnar brothers, Scott and Victa, the
> rams.
> Cheers
> Tony
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