[AusRace] Aged runners - was Crafty Cruiser

Sun Nov 11 09:01:14 AEDT 2018

Tony, maybe like so many humans, horses are aging better. My 70 yo sister
still plays basketball 3 nights a week - not Masters, although she does
compete in their games, but in open competition, with teenagers and 20s; not
A grade any more, but even D grade teenagers are tough competition for a
great-grannie-to be.

-----Original Message-----
From: Racing <racing-bounces at ausrace.com> On Behalf Of Tony Moffat
Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2018 2:06 PM
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Subject: Re: [AusRace] Aged runners - was Crafty Cruiser

Len - there are a raft of older runners (63) accepted for racing today
(10/11) including a 12 year old at Geelong(scr. now).
There is a competitive race at Moranbah (yes, there) were the 10 yo is
priced at $2.20 A nine year old Alpine Dragon is racing at Newcastle
(pronounced Noo-cassel by the girl on the internet radio) and trained by the
very horse name orientated Colt Prosser.

Tabulam has racing today with several 'oldies' contesting. There is a sign
in the town that announces it is half way between the surf and Texas!

So with a count of 63 in a days racing seems to confirm your observation,
there is a lot of the aged brigade still running, and running quite well if
you review their last four starts.

Cheers

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of L.B.Loveday
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 3:37 AM
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Subject: Re: [AusRace] Crafty Cruiser

Last year, 2017, there were 196 11yo runs, for 3 wins. 

1296 runners for 5 wins sounds very wrong - that would make them incredible
lays.

Risa must ignore many races for their calculations that TRB includes - TRB
provide results of races big and small - 41 meetings on MC day.

I make it 9851 runners 8yo or older for 679 winners in 2017, a vast
discrepancy from 1296/5. At Mainland Metro alone I make it 1270 for 60
winners.

As always, statistics are only as accurate as my data bases and my
programming!

-----Original Message-----
From: Racing <racing-bounces at ausrace.com> On Behalf Of Tony Moffat
Sent: Friday, 9 November 2018 10:45 PM
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Subject: Re: [AusRace] Crafty Cruiser

Hi Len
http://publishingservices.risa.com.au/otherpublications/Factbook%202016-2017
/83/#zoom=z
I got my data here - capped at 2017 season though.
It seems there were 1296 runners aged 8yo+ and they won 5 races.
The year before there were more runners for 3 successes.
These  are wins. Sometimes, presumably , they run, not for first, or any
place but for the runner prize which can be $2400 just for going around,
nice work if you can get it, and that $2.4K buys a whack of hay, I know.

I reckon we could be justified in ignoring them somewhat, the aged.

I missed the race tonight - gardening.

Cheers

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of L.B.Loveday
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 6:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [AusRace] Crafty Cruiser

Tony,

Quite a year for 11yos - 48 unique 11yos have run according to my
TRB-supplied database, being the most in any calendar year since and
including 1995 and there are weeks to go. They have contested 255 races for
15 wins (after CC today, 256; there was another 11yo in the same race,
Knucklemanna, but it was scratched), returning $105 at $1 SP - pretty easy
to see why I give them a big negative.

LBL

-----Original Message-----
From: Racing <racing-bounces at ausrace.com> On Behalf Of Tony Moffat
Sent: Friday, 9 November 2018 7:12 PM
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Subject: [AusRace] Crafty Cruiser

Crafty Cruiser
Cranbourne Race 4 tonight 2000 hours local It seems this greybeard has been
with us at the races for years - essentially it has been.
He runs tonight for his 141 start and is 11 years old and ridden by Corey
Parish, him with that flamboyant whipping action of his. 
Sadly CC does not seem to figure in any sums for the race, neither the
tipsters nor the form, weight, money schemes or workouts can promote him to
the fore, not even fourth or fifth or sixth in some rankings.
The old boy has average earnt $5000 each time he has fronted and remains
fit, and healthy it  seems, and always seems keen and alert and well
mannered. He must have a licence to race because I thought they were
stopping them at 9 years old, the comfort clause, unless there were special
reasons for it to run on.
I think 141 starts is a good point to stop now. There is an apprehension now
each time he goes round, did he get in okay, well that's what I feel any
way.
The form seems to be with 6,3,4, and 8.
The before and now money choices might be 5,6,3, and two and there are lots
of touches for him on the corporate sites, three I use have him written
up(flucs) 44 times - I'm not sure that is an accurate indicator, for
anything actually, except for the clerk who is trying to entice some money
for it.
For what it's worth I hope he wins, then retires - there is a paddock here
if needs be, he can share with the Bonnar brothers, Scott and Victa, the
rams.
Cheers
Tony

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