From awchildmelb at gmail.com  Wed Mar  1 12:59:41 2017
From: awchildmelb at gmail.com (Andrew Child)
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2017 12:59:41 +1100
Subject: [AusRace] Test
Message-ID: <99afb177-14bf-fe4b-3a89-643045365ae2@gmail.com>

Haven't received anything for several weeks. Anyone out there?



From swallis at bigpond.com.au  Wed Mar  1 19:12:50 2017
From: swallis at bigpond.com.au (swallis at bigpond.com.au)
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2017 19:12:50 +1100
Subject: [AusRace] Racetrack codes
In-Reply-To: <90480f4b214543d2bf5633f5a14a36aa@syd1exchpmbx2.cloud.local>
References: <E58493612E904C41B395763AC389F28C@Wallis>
	<90480f4b214543d2bf5633f5a14a36aa@syd1exchpmbx2.cloud.local>
Message-ID: <152EFF5318D04F0D8591E83DA8A52185@Wallis>

Anyone know where I can find an up to date listing of 6 letter race track codes? Sky has some, but not complete. Some I can guess, like Geesyn, but others are a mystery ? e.g. Racing & Racsyn
Steve w.

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From nick.aubrey at twonix.com  Fri Mar  3 06:55:14 2017
From: nick.aubrey at twonix.com (Nick at Twonix)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2017 06:55:14 +1100
Subject: [AusRace] Access FREE race results ... and much more
Message-ID: <000001d2938e$ea0f3530$be2d9f90$@twonix.com>

Hi All,

It looks like the Ausrace email list  has run its course but thought I'd do
one last post to let you know about a new racing project of mine . see
below.

Cheers,

AN

----------------------------------------------------------

 

What started as a request from an Ausrace
<http://www.ausrace.com/mailing-list/ausrace-archives/>  member  to access
Australian race results has now expanded into far more than what I thought
was possible to deliver via the internet.

 

What does  Extreme Punter Intelligence (E.P.I.) provide ?

*         You can get results of  all Australasian races run since January
2016 ... more than 233,000 horse race runs covering over 23,000 races ...
involving 38,000 horses.

*         You can select results for a particular group of races ... or all
runs for a specific horse .. or all rides for a particular jockey ... or any
jockey / trainer combination.

*         You can compare the performance of an infinite number of system
scenarios by using measures  such as Strike Rate and the powerful A2E
statistic.

*         You can export the results of any query into a CSV file.

 

And due to the power of Microsoft's hosting of their Power BI application
online (it's the BEST thing that Microsoft have ever done) a typical E.P.I
query only takes a few seconds ... amazing when you consider there are over
235,000 race result records !

To access E.P.I  you need to be a registered Member . but its FREE to join
... click here
<http://www.puntforprofit.com.au/e-p-i-extreme-punter-intelligence/e-p-i-acc
ess-details/>  to either register or login.

Oh  and can you please use AUSRACE as the Member Group when registering.

 

 

From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of Doug Robb
Sent: Thursday, 9 February 2017 2:04 AM
To: AusRace Racing Discussion List <racing at ausrace.com>
Subject: Re: [AusRace] Formatting

 

Just testing this for Mike. I've loosened up the post filters so we should
be able to post spreadsheets and/or pdf files around to make it easier to
read these sorts of posts. Also html mail should work as well so you can
post a more neatly formatted email rather than just plain text. This message
is html format with image embedded so you can see what I mean.

 

Re Len's posts if they are in the archive they will have been sent out so
maybe check junk email (or spam) on your local mailer. I  did see one post
Len that was held because it was over the size limit of 250k but I can
increase this to 500k next time I look at the defaults.

 

Also a lot of addresses have triggered automatic block to send any more mail
(since the email addresses seem to be dead). This is an example below. If
your email is bouncing because the ISP is down and its bounced 5 posts back
its blocked and I will go through and delete off the list. The subscribe
page is on the website if you want to check you are subscribed at any time,

 

Doug

 

 



 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of
mikemcb at southcom.com.au <mailto:mikemcb at southcom.com.au> 
Sent: Sunday, 5 February 2017 5:12 PM
To: Ausrace Mailing List
Subject: [AusRace] Formatting

 

Try this one then I will give up if unsuccessful...

 

TRACK                 RN         TN         HORSE               CALC1    

              FPOS     WINDIV              PLCDIV SYSTEMNAME

SUNSHINE COAST           1            5            Zukaz
68.33    1ST        1.9         1.2              BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

SINGAPORE       2            1            One Kinabalu
60.54    3RD            

              1.1         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

SALE                    8            4            Henry George
61.08    1ST        2.2         1.3              BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

ALICE SPRINGS                 1            1            Shivarchi
63.11    4TH                          

              BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

ALICE SPRINGS                 2            1            Kentucky Fireball
65          1ST        1.7              1.3         BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

ALICE SPRINGS                 3            1            Bel Maiya
66.32    2ND            

              1.7         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

MUDGEE            4            1            Sprezzatura
66.47    2ND            

              1.4         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

HOBART             5            4            Derasa                61.58
2ND            

              1.3         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

HOBART             7            1            Hot Dipped
63.33    1ST        1.7         1.2              BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

HOBART             8            7            Big Duke            62.78
2ND            

              1.4         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

BORDERTOWN                2            1            Battistoni
62.22    1ST        3.5         2.3              BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

 

 

 

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From seanmac4321 at gmail.com  Fri Mar  3 07:24:32 2017
From: seanmac4321 at gmail.com (sean mclaren)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2017 06:24:32 +1000
Subject: [AusRace] Access FREE race results ... and much more
In-Reply-To: <000001d2938e$ea0f3530$be2d9f90$@twonix.com>
References: <000001d2938e$ea0f3530$be2d9f90$@twonix.com>
Message-ID: <CAOBDE-RX9Locja4PpW-X5mEdJ94NQS0ECPQ1LQWue7ZHxxunjg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi nick

Password email not received.

Cheers Sean

On 3 Mar 2017 5:56 am, "Nick at Twonix" <nick.aubrey at twonix.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> It looks like the Ausrace email list  has run its course but thought I?d
> do one last post to let you know about a new racing project of mine ? see
> below.
>
> Cheers,
>
> AN
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> *What started as a request from an Ausrace
> <http://www.ausrace.com/mailing-list/ausrace-archives/> member  to access
> Australian race results has now expanded into far more than what I thought
> was possible to deliver via the internet.*
>
>
>
> *What does  Extreme Punter Intelligence (E.P.I.) provide ?*
>
> ?         *You can get results of  all Australasian races run since
> January 2016 ... more than 233,000 horse race runs covering over 23,000
> races ... involving 38,000 horses.*
>
> ?         *You can select results for a particular group of races ... or
> all runs for a specific horse .. or all rides for a particular jockey ...
> or any jockey / trainer combination.*
>
> ?         *You can compare the performance of an infinite number of
> system scenarios by using measures  such as Strike Rate and the powerful
> A2E statistic.*
>
> ?         *You can export the results of any query into a CSV file.*
>
>
>
> *And due to the power of Microsoft's hosting of their Power BI application
> online (it's the BEST thing that Microsoft have ever done) a typical E.P.I
> query only takes a few seconds ... amazing when you consider there are over
> 235,000 race result records !*
>
> *To access E.P.I  you need to be a registered Member ? but its FREE to
> join ... click here
> <http://www.puntforprofit.com.au/e-p-i-extreme-punter-intelligence/e-p-i-access-details/>to
> either register or login.*
>
> *Oh  and can you please use AUSRACE as the Member Group when registering.*
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] *On Behalf Of *Doug
> Robb
> *Sent:* Thursday, 9 February 2017 2:04 AM
> *To:* AusRace Racing Discussion List <racing at ausrace.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AusRace] Formatting
>
>
>
> Just testing this for Mike. I've loosened up the post filters so we should
> be able to post spreadsheets and/or pdf files around to make it easier to
> read these sorts of posts. Also html mail should work as well so you can
> post a more neatly formatted email rather than just plain text. This
> message is html format with image embedded so you can see what I mean.
>
>
>
> Re Len's posts if they are in the archive they will have been sent out so
> maybe check junk email (or spam) on your local mailer. I  did see one post
> Len that was held because it was over the size limit of 250k but I can
> increase this to 500k next time I look at the defaults.
>
>
>
> Also a lot of addresses have triggered automatic block to send any more
> mail (since the email addresses seem to be dead). This is an example below.
> If your email is bouncing because the ISP is down and its bounced 5 posts
> back its blocked and I will go through and delete off the list. The
> subscribe page is on the website if you want to check you are subscribed at
> any time,
>
>
>
> Doug
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com
> <racing-bounces at ausrace.com>] On Behalf Of mikemcb at southcom.com.au
> Sent: Sunday, 5 February 2017 5:12 PM
> To: Ausrace Mailing List
> Subject: [AusRace] Formatting
>
>
>
> Try this one then I will give up if unsuccessful...
>
>
>
> TRACK                 RN         TN         HORSE               CALC1
>
>               FPOS     WINDIV              PLCDIV SYSTEMNAME
>
> SUNSHINE COAST           1            5            Zukaz
> 68.33    1ST        1.9         1.2              BETFAIR
>
> PLACE ONLY
>
> SINGAPORE       2            1            One Kinabalu
> 60.54    3RD
>
>               1.1         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY
>
> SALE                    8            4            Henry George
>           61.08    1ST        2.2         1.3              BETFAIR
>
> PLACE ONLY
>
> ALICE SPRINGS                 1            1
> Shivarchi           63.11    4TH
>
>               BETFAIR PLACE ONLY
>
> ALICE SPRINGS                 2            1            Kentucky
> Fireball            65          1ST        1.7              1.3
> BETFAIR
>
> PLACE ONLY
>
> ALICE SPRINGS                 3            1            Bel
> Maiya                         66.32    2ND
>
>               1.7         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY
>
> MUDGEE            4            1            Sprezzatura
>              66.47    2ND
>
>               1.4         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY
>
> HOBART             5            4            Derasa
> 61.58    2ND
>
>               1.3         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY
>
> HOBART             7            1            Hot Dipped
>             63.33    1ST        1.7         1.2              BETFAIR
>
> PLACE ONLY
>
> HOBART             8            7            Big Duke            62.78
> 2ND
>
>               1.4         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY
>
> BORDERTOWN                2            1            Battistoni
> 62.22    1ST        3.5         2.3              BETFAIR
>
> PLACE ONLY
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> Racing mailing list
>
> Racing at ausrace.com
>
> http://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com
>
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From seanmac4321 at gmail.com  Fri Mar  3 07:56:02 2017
From: seanmac4321 at gmail.com (sean mclaren)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2017 06:56:02 +1000
Subject: [AusRace] Access FREE race results ... and much more
In-Reply-To: <CAOBDE-QnaApx0oBdDa6Xdbj0pgZ6TjkTRaVnTKadM3jpKXgXCg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000001d2938e$ea0f3530$be2d9f90$@twonix.com>
	<CAOBDE-QnaApx0oBdDa6Xdbj0pgZ6TjkTRaVnTKadM3jpKXgXCg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOBDE-RpR7dDgF5w0aBAZJjv85Fs1cgxSWqKkQ80tQMqTubAaw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi nick

Password email in spam.

New phone issues!

Cheers Sean

On 3 Mar 2017 5:56 am, "Nick at Twonix" <nick.aubrey at twonix.com> wrote:

Hi All,

It looks like the Ausrace email list  has run its course but thought I?d do
one last post to let you know about a new racing project of mine ? see
below.

Cheers,

AN

----------------------------------------------------------



*What started as a request from an Ausrace
<http://www.ausrace.com/mailing-list/ausrace-archives/> member  to access
Australian race results has now expanded into far more than what I thought
was possible to deliver via the internet.*



*What does  Extreme Punter Intelligence (E.P.I.) provide ?*

?         *You can get results of  all Australasian races run since January
2016 ... more than 233,000 horse race runs covering over 23,000 races ...
involving 38,000 horses.*

?         *You can select results for a particular group of races ... or
all runs for a specific horse .. or all rides for a particular jockey ...
or any jockey / trainer combination.*

?         *You can compare the performance of an infinite number of system
scenarios by using measures  such as Strike Rate and the powerful A2E
statistic.*

?         *You can export the results of any query into a CSV file.*



*And due to the power of Microsoft's hosting of their Power BI application
online (it's the BEST thing that Microsoft have ever done) a typical E.P.I
query only takes a few seconds ... amazing when you consider there are over
235,000 race result records !*

*To access E.P.I  you need to be a registered Member ? but its FREE to join
... click here
<http://www.puntforprofit.com.au/e-p-i-extreme-punter-intelligence/e-p-i-access-details/>to
either register or login.*

*Oh  and can you please use AUSRACE as the Member Group when registering.*





*From:* Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] *On Behalf Of *Doug Robb
*Sent:* Thursday, 9 February 2017 2:04 AM
*To:* AusRace Racing Discussion List <racing at ausrace.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AusRace] Formatting



Just testing this for Mike. I've loosened up the post filters so we should
be able to post spreadsheets and/or pdf files around to make it easier to
read these sorts of posts. Also html mail should work as well so you can
post a more neatly formatted email rather than just plain text. This
message is html format with image embedded so you can see what I mean.



Re Len's posts if they are in the archive they will have been sent out so
maybe check junk email (or spam) on your local mailer. I  did see one post
Len that was held because it was over the size limit of 250k but I can
increase this to 500k next time I look at the defaults.



Also a lot of addresses have triggered automatic block to send any more
mail (since the email addresses seem to be dead). This is an example below.
If your email is bouncing because the ISP is down and its bounced 5 posts
back its blocked and I will go through and delete off the list. The
subscribe page is on the website if you want to check you are subscribed at
any time,



Doug









-----Original Message-----
From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com <racing-bounces at ausrace.com>]
On Behalf Of mikemcb at southcom.com.au
Sent: Sunday, 5 February 2017 5:12 PM
To: Ausrace Mailing List
Subject: [AusRace] Formatting



Try this one then I will give up if unsuccessful...



TRACK                 RN         TN         HORSE               CALC1

              FPOS     WINDIV              PLCDIV SYSTEMNAME

SUNSHINE COAST           1            5            Zukaz
68.33    1ST        1.9         1.2              BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

SINGAPORE       2            1            One Kinabalu
60.54    3RD

              1.1         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

SALE                    8            4            Henry George
          61.08    1ST        2.2         1.3              BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

ALICE SPRINGS                 1            1            Shivarchi
63.11    4TH

              BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

ALICE SPRINGS                 2            1            Kentucky Fireball
         65          1ST        1.7              1.3         BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

ALICE SPRINGS                 3            1            Bel Maiya
              66.32    2ND

              1.7         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

MUDGEE            4            1            Sprezzatura
             66.47    2ND

              1.4         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

HOBART             5            4            Derasa                61.58
2ND

              1.3         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

HOBART             7            1            Hot Dipped
            63.33    1ST        1.7         1.2              BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

HOBART             8            7            Big Duke            62.78
2ND

              1.4         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

BORDERTOWN                2            1            Battistoni
62.22    1ST        3.5         2.3              BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY







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http://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com

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From nick.aubrey at twonix.com  Fri Mar  3 18:32:07 2017
From: nick.aubrey at twonix.com (Nick at Twonix)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2017 18:32:07 +1100
Subject: [AusRace] Michelle Payne stats
Message-ID: <001101d293f0$4581e320$d085a960$@twonix.com>

Hi Sean,

Thanks for letting me know that all okay. Also just to let everyone know that there is no software required to browse and export the results available in EPI.  All you need is a web browser.

 

BTW I have just made a post looking at Michelle Payne?s performance over the last 14 months.  Interested to hear what Len thinks.

http://www.puntforprofit.com.au/2017/03/michelle-payne-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/

 

Cheers,

AN

 

Punt For Profit  ?  Click below. It?s a Not-For-Loss organistion !
 <http://www.puntforprofit.com.au/> 

 

 

 

 

 

From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of sean mclaren
Sent: Friday, 3 March 2017 7:56 AM
To: AusRace Racing Discussion List <racing at ausrace.com>
Subject: Re: [AusRace] Access FREE race results ... and much more

 

Hi nick

 

Password email in spam. 

 

New phone issues! 

 

Cheers Sean

 

On 3 Mar 2017 5:56 am, "Nick at Twonix" <nick.aubrey at twonix.com <mailto:nick.aubrey at twonix.com> > wrote:

Hi All,

It looks like the Ausrace email list  has run its course but thought I?d do one last post to let you know about a new racing project of mine ? see below.

Cheers,

AN

----------------------------------------------------------

 

What started as a request from an Ausrace <http://www.ausrace.com/mailing-list/ausrace-archives/>  member  to access Australian race results has now expanded into far more than what I thought was possible to deliver via the internet.

 

What does  Extreme Punter Intelligence (E.P.I.) provide ?

*         You can get results of  all Australasian races run since January 2016 ... more than 233,000 horse race runs covering over 23,000 races ... involving 38,000 horses.

*         You can select results for a particular group of races ... or all runs for a specific horse .. or all rides for a particular jockey ... or any jockey / trainer combination.

*         You can compare the performance of an infinite number of system scenarios by using measures  such as Strike Rate and the powerful A2E statistic.

*         You can export the results of any query into a CSV file.

 

And due to the power of Microsoft's hosting of their Power BI application online (it's the BEST thing that Microsoft have ever done) a typical E.P.I query only takes a few seconds ... amazing when you consider there are over 235,000 race result records !

To access E.P.I  you need to be a registered Member ? but its FREE to join ... click here <http://www.puntforprofit.com.au/e-p-i-extreme-punter-intelligence/e-p-i-access-details/>  to either register or login.

Oh  and can you please use AUSRACE as the Member Group when registering.

 

 

From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com <mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com> ] On Behalf Of Doug Robb
Sent: Thursday, 9 February 2017 2:04 AM
To: AusRace Racing Discussion List <racing at ausrace.com <mailto:racing at ausrace.com> >
Subject: Re: [AusRace] Formatting

 

Just testing this for Mike. I've loosened up the post filters so we should be able to post spreadsheets and/or pdf files around to make it easier to read these sorts of posts. Also html mail should work as well so you can post a more neatly formatted email rather than just plain text. This message is html format with image embedded so you can see what I mean.

 

Re Len's posts if they are in the archive they will have been sent out so maybe check junk email (or spam) on your local mailer. I  did see one post Len that was held because it was over the size limit of 250k but I can increase this to 500k next time I look at the defaults.

 

Also a lot of addresses have triggered automatic block to send any more mail (since the email addresses seem to be dead). This is an example below. If your email is bouncing because the ISP is down and its bounced 5 posts back its blocked and I will go through and delete off the list. The subscribe page is on the website if you want to check you are subscribed at any time,

 

Doug

 

 



 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of mikemcb at southcom.com.au <mailto:mikemcb at southcom.com.au> 
Sent: Sunday, 5 February 2017 5:12 PM
To: Ausrace Mailing List
Subject: [AusRace] Formatting

 

Try this one then I will give up if unsuccessful...

 

TRACK                 RN         TN         HORSE               CALC1    

              FPOS     WINDIV              PLCDIV SYSTEMNAME

SUNSHINE COAST           1            5            Zukaz                  68.33    1ST        1.9         1.2              BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

SINGAPORE       2            1            One Kinabalu                   60.54    3RD            

              1.1         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

SALE                    8            4            Henry George                  61.08    1ST        2.2         1.3              BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

ALICE SPRINGS                 1            1            Shivarchi           63.11    4TH                          

              BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

ALICE SPRINGS                 2            1            Kentucky Fireball            65          1ST        1.7              1.3         BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

ALICE SPRINGS                 3            1            Bel Maiya                         66.32    2ND            

              1.7         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

MUDGEE            4            1            Sprezzatura                      66.47    2ND            

              1.4         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

HOBART             5            4            Derasa                61.58    2ND            

              1.3         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

HOBART             7            1            Hot Dipped                      63.33    1ST        1.7         1.2              BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

HOBART             8            7            Big Duke            62.78    2ND            

              1.4         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

BORDERTOWN                2            1            Battistoni          62.22    1ST        3.5         2.3              BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

 

 

 

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Racing mailing list

 <mailto:Racing at ausrace.com> Racing at ausrace.com

 <http://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com> http://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com


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From nick.aubrey at twonix.com  Sat Mar  4 08:18:13 2017
From: nick.aubrey at twonix.com (Nick at Twonix)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2017 08:18:13 +1100
Subject: [AusRace] Access FREE race results ... and much more
In-Reply-To: <000001d2938e$ea0f3530$be2d9f90$@twonix.com>
References: <000001d2938e$ea0f3530$be2d9f90$@twonix.com>
Message-ID: <002001d29463$abd1c410$03754c30$@twonix.com>

Just to let everyone know that there is no software required to browse and
export the results available in EPI.  All you need is a web browser.

 

Using EPI stats I have just made a post looking at Michelle Payne's
performance over the last 14 months.  Interested to hear what Len thinks.

http://www.puntforprofit.com.au/2017/03/michelle-payne-the-good-the-bad-and-
the-ugly/

 

Cheers,

AN

 

 

From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of Nick at Twonix
Sent: Friday, 3 March 2017 6:55 AM
To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com>
Subject: [AusRace] Access FREE race results ... and much more

 

Hi All,

It looks like the Ausrace email list  has run its course but thought I'd do
one last post to let you know about a new racing project of mine . see
below.

Cheers,

AN

----------------------------------------------------------

 

What started as a request from an Ausrace
<http://www.ausrace.com/mailing-list/ausrace-archives/>  member  to access
Australian race results has now expanded into far more than what I thought
was possible to deliver via the internet.

 

What does  Extreme Punter Intelligence (E.P.I.) provide ?

*         You can get results of  all Australasian races run since January
2016 ... more than 233,000 horse race runs covering over 23,000 races ...
involving 38,000 horses.

*         You can select results for a particular group of races ... or all
runs for a specific horse .. or all rides for a particular jockey ... or any
jockey / trainer combination.

*         You can compare the performance of an infinite number of system
scenarios by using measures  such as Strike Rate and the powerful A2E
statistic.

*         You can export the results of any query into a CSV file.

 

And due to the power of Microsoft's hosting of their Power BI application
online (it's the BEST thing that Microsoft have ever done) a typical E.P.I
query only takes a few seconds ... amazing when you consider there are over
235,000 race result records !

To access E.P.I  you need to be a registered Member . but its FREE to join
... click here
<http://www.puntforprofit.com.au/e-p-i-extreme-punter-intelligence/e-p-i-acc
ess-details/>  to either register or login.

Oh  and can you please use AUSRACE as the Member Group when registering.

 

 

From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of Doug Robb
Sent: Thursday, 9 February 2017 2:04 AM
To: AusRace Racing Discussion List <racing at ausrace.com
<mailto:racing at ausrace.com> >
Subject: Re: [AusRace] Formatting

 

Just testing this for Mike. I've loosened up the post filters so we should
be able to post spreadsheets and/or pdf files around to make it easier to
read these sorts of posts. Also html mail should work as well so you can
post a more neatly formatted email rather than just plain text. This message
is html format with image embedded so you can see what I mean.

 

Re Len's posts if they are in the archive they will have been sent out so
maybe check junk email (or spam) on your local mailer. I  did see one post
Len that was held because it was over the size limit of 250k but I can
increase this to 500k next time I look at the defaults.

 

Also a lot of addresses have triggered automatic block to send any more mail
(since the email addresses seem to be dead). This is an example below. If
your email is bouncing because the ISP is down and its bounced 5 posts back
its blocked and I will go through and delete off the list. The subscribe
page is on the website if you want to check you are subscribed at any time,

 

Doug

 

 



 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of
mikemcb at southcom.com.au <mailto:mikemcb at southcom.com.au> 
Sent: Sunday, 5 February 2017 5:12 PM
To: Ausrace Mailing List
Subject: [AusRace] Formatting

 

Try this one then I will give up if unsuccessful...

 

TRACK                 RN         TN         HORSE               CALC1    

              FPOS     WINDIV              PLCDIV SYSTEMNAME

SUNSHINE COAST           1            5            Zukaz
68.33    1ST        1.9         1.2              BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

SINGAPORE       2            1            One Kinabalu
60.54    3RD            

              1.1         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

SALE                    8            4            Henry George
61.08    1ST        2.2         1.3              BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

ALICE SPRINGS                 1            1            Shivarchi
63.11    4TH                          

              BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

ALICE SPRINGS                 2            1            Kentucky Fireball
65          1ST        1.7              1.3         BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

ALICE SPRINGS                 3            1            Bel Maiya
66.32    2ND            

              1.7         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

MUDGEE            4            1            Sprezzatura
66.47    2ND            

              1.4         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

HOBART             5            4            Derasa                61.58
2ND            

              1.3         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

HOBART             7            1            Hot Dipped
63.33    1ST        1.7         1.2              BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

HOBART             8            7            Big Duke            62.78
2ND            

              1.4         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

BORDERTOWN                2            1            Battistoni
62.22    1ST        3.5         2.3              BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

 

 

 

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From tonymoffat at bigpond.com  Sat Mar  4 22:50:28 2017
From: tonymoffat at bigpond.com (Tony Moffat)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2017 19:50:28 +0800
Subject: [AusRace] On the Punt - characters you see occasionally
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I was at the races this day when I saw Santa Claus being sick. It was
close to Christmas, obviously, and I expect that Santa had partaken
too much of the free spirit being offered to guests and elfs and
himself. It was on the back stairs of the curved grandstand at Moonee
Valley and sick Santa was due to come down the main straight in a
sleigh pulled by a tractor, it was dry and overcast actually quite
dark for maybe 3.00pm in the afternoon. I had been to the toilet
nearby, the best actually always clean and rarely used except by the
staff. Anyway, as I said Santa got to the bottom of the stairs and
vomited, just missing an attendant elf, there were about four of those
and in a most unlikely elfen manner one of them said 'oh fucking hell,
he's pissed again ' so I'm thinking that Santa needs to drink more and
get his body used to it. So what did they do, well they put back Santa
arrival by one race, they took his outfit off and surprise, surprise
he was wearing shorts and long socks and a short sleeved shirt. Then
they inspected his outfit and one of the tiny elves put it on and she
doubled as Santa although her hat was way too big. They came down the
main straight and turned into the race and came towards the grandstand
and the kids went beserk. Although the buzz word for that back then
was beresk. When Santa left the sleigh there was a silence as it was
realised s/he was tiny, I mean there were taller elves that maybe
could have stepped in but no, this brave kid put the suit on, tied it
in with tinsel so that the pants stayed up, rolled the leg of the
trousers up and wore thongs, it being summer and all I guess. Anyway
Santa, small as she was walked amongst the crowd stating Ho ho ho and
throwing lollies around and in a few seconds the kids got into it and
he went up to her chair and held court there. There were photos of
giant kids on tiny Santa knee and more lolly throwing, I personally
caught and ate a Roses chocolate, more than one before they melted,
and I am unsure of the fate of the sick Santa, but he was presented
next year so I am going to say that he survived. The pool of spew was
left there, presumably this was not elf responsibility although the
assuming of the Santa persona was, and well done to stand in Santa,
you are a trooper.
That day, the Santa upset tummy day I was with friends, Keithy, Mark,
Gavin, Aaron, Aarons Mum and Dad, Peter and Chas and another to make
10 at a party and we had a table in the betting auditorium, a booked
area, provided you didn't leave the place because if you did the
others would swoop on the chairs and the table and you couldn't move
them or sort it without a blue. I backed the winner in the first,
Here, as I thought the favourite was going to be covered up in the big
field and Here had put in a good run although was only a 2 year old
but had won at a big price the run before and won well from a wide
barrier, as he had here. I saved on Yonder Song who ran third at a big
price. The others had bet this for a place and won too. I stayed out
of Race two, a three year old fillies race. In race three I backed
Pipes and Minchins Lane which won after a previous good run in a
harder race. I stayed out of race 4, the second division of the three
year old fillies although some of the others backed Lady Somerset for
a place and made a profit with that. In race 5 I had a small bet on
the tote on the winner Flying Visit and saved on Kerrys Son which
lost, it was not a race I would normally bet in, there were a few form
gaps here, all runners had form but it was dodgy. Santa did her thing
after this race so that made it even more special. In race six I
backed three runners, I saved on Society Man which won, I backed Mac's
Indian which came second, and lost on Recollect which was unplaced and
hopeless and there was a big boo for it afterwards. I didn't see
anything wrong with the ride so somebody lost their $5 I guess, that's
usually why they boo. I did not have a bet in race 7, I had a pie
though and a talk with the others although I had walked up to have a
place bet on Lucidium, Brent Thompson riding from barrier 15 but the
queue was long, it was close to start and I was still in the queue and
about 5 persons back when they jumped. It placed but the place
dividend was weak, so somebody, Keithy maybe, had plonked on it.
Later, he said he had a good win, making nearly $3300 on that bet. I
should mention he is a big punter, carries $3000 minimum on course
with him often and most often much more. Don't touch his money
because, just don't try it is my advice. That's big money for anybody.
Keithy often backed horses to place, his hot shot picks paying $1.70
and he had $1000 on it, a profit to him of $700. He didn't shrink back
though, the rest of us would stop and lock in the profit. Not him, he
would look for something in the next and tip $200 on the nose and a
$1000 for the place on it. He left the place loaded often, he used to
go to a toilet stall out of the way and sit on the seat and straighten
out all the notes, put them all the same way then bundle them into
flat groups of ten notes, all beautifully arranged the correct way
round, then he put the packs of money into his coat, in pockets sown
in by his partner Amanda, so that he looked respectable as he left,
his coat buttoned up in 95 degree heat sometimes. Amanda took the
money out when they got home and there was a lot for them, some for
her and some for Keithy, never a disagreement because that's how it
was, and I cannot suppose or guess how much money was in the place
after a couple of good weeks on the punt, and he bet other days as
well, either up to his local TAB or if he lost at that one he went to
another, yes, apparently TABS have feelings. It was this last trait of
his, the superstitious Keithy that could name or blame most things or
occurrences on his belief in the supernatural. Its what kept Amanda
around too, she was very spiritual that girl and her life evolved
around them, the spirits from food, to travel, to clothes, to colours,
to sex so probably everything came down to superstition. I never had
sex with Amanda although she suggested we should be doing it, often,
and Keithy said she did meet men elsewhere sometimes. It's a different
world made up of different people. But Keithy and his superpowers made
him a tidy quid occasionally, although I believe his high priced
ratings he paid for also helped there, he got all the metro meetings
and the ratings came in the mail, he was hardly organised and
sometimes he had misplaced his ratings pages between, the bedroom, the
office, the toilet or the kitchen and he lived in a converted hotel so
there were lots of rooms. In the last race that day, Santa special
day, I backed Silver Kiwi for a place and saved on Chance Landing
which was unplaced and heavily backed when there was a delay at the
start. So I had a winning day as Silver Kiwi placed and paid good.
Keithy must have won a bit too, a bit by his standards meant a lot of
winnings.
The previous week at Flemington it was hot and sunny and it was quiet
on course, no Santa this time, and Keithy backed Kilkenny Kid in the
hurdle for $400 place and won $200. Then he backed the favourite in
Race 2 Sardius which won paying a $1.90 so he won $380 for his $200 on
him. He had $400 on Delphi Rose with the books and won $1000 there. He
had $100 place on Persian Saint and it placed but there was a lot of
other money for it to and he made $110 on that he said. In Race 6 he
took Paignton straight out at 7/1 and also had $1000 place on Arms
Hussar, Paignton won and the other placed paying $1.80 so he was $1600
up on that one. He backed Sue Lad in the next and it placed paying
$2.10 with his usual $1000 and saved on Sky Castle with $100 with the
books, which I placed, and it lost. In the last he lost $300 when Pure
Heart failed to place and ran down the track. He would not tell me how
he decided to finance his betting, his big wins were on place bets but
how he decided the value of the bets he did not divulge, I think he
meant to but he kept the mystique going for a while. Certainly he bet
on well qualified horses, they definitely had a chance of figuring in
the finish and often his was the public elect, the favourite in other
words. His announced winnings were awry as well, I mean he said he won
$380 on Sardius after he bet $200, and he won't have it that he won
$180, he cannot win back or what ever word he uses for it less than he
put on, that's not punting is it. But he recorded things in detail,
his after race writing was better than his before race assertions, put
it that way. Amanda was often just outside his flailing radius, he
rode them home, in the stand, on the lawn, in the car. They won
because he made them do that, and you never heard why they lost, but
more on that soon.
It wasn't always beer and skittles though. The week before again, and
I wasn't at this meeting, he won on the 2nd,4th and 5th race but lost
on the day because two bigger bets failed to salute. So he had $250
and $400 bets but his $1000 bets otherwise did not place. It was wet
and windy at Caulfield he said and that is never a good sign
apparently, but he still piled it on to lose $3000 on the day and
Amanda had to go another week without her beauty treatments. Poor
love. But he drove around until he found a church with the lights on
and Benediction running so all good. She is intensely religious which
seems at odds with how it is afterwards.

Mark on the other hand is a punting mate who knows a lot. He rates his
runners, their performance in various previous races and the quality
of those races against the runners in this up coming race and the
overall race quality again. He then has a good oversight of the
ability of his runners so he can select with that knowledge but he
involves the jockeys and the barriers they start from at this
distance. He has most angles covered he believes and spends several
hours every week preparing for this one day, a Saturday in Melbourne
at the races. He doesn't talk much until about the 3rd race and he may
have finished betting then as he generally locks in a profit by
banking any winnings and he is content to look on. He is a
professional, race course betting is how he makes his living and re
investing those winnings is how he makes money long term.  He has
houses and shops and small industrial units all paying him a dividend.
He hopes to stop and spend his money, all of it he says, some day
soon. He wants to travel relentlessly, just follow a band around the
world for instance, something he has done several times previously. He
has a girlfriend, Marg, and they have been together since primary
school. They are both health nuts, running and gym workouts, and own a
building where a gym resides, he says. Mark may specialise in races
where the favourite deserves to be so. He often has big bets on short
priced horses because he has assessed it is worth it, and the general
public and the bookmakers also have the same opinion. He almost always
single picks, he backs one horse only. At a meeting just after
Christmas, the Santa episode Christmas, he backed Mighty Czar for a
big amount and he made 2.50 for each dollar he spent, a profit of
250%. It was a sizeable profit I believe, in the order of $10000. He
took a cheque from the bookmaker and $2000 then had $10 bets on some
races, 3 I think, and snared some quinellas in them, then he backed On
the Prowl at 4.60, Quashqai at 3/1 although it started longer and he
rushed to put a thousand on it on the tote and it paid $5 and in the
last race he and Marg backed Sportscast everytime it went out to even
money, they walked in with $500 bets with 5 bookies. It was a
devastating win, I mean perhaps a $30000 result just on that race and
maybe $50000 for the day. I went out to tea with them that night and
we did not talk about the races until about 2.00am when Marg said it
had been a good day and we stopped for a coffee and he showed me some
of the cheques. Mark said he was driven somewhat by the price of the
runner he was backing as, to him, this was an indicator that the money
was 'on' and the stable connections and owners and smarties, which
included these two, had concluded that the chosen runner was value,
even though its price was skinny. As an aside, I may concentrate on
the same race hoping that the smart money is wrong and subsequently my
selections, often 3, nearly always two, will have an inflated price
because of the thinking and application of money. Mark acknowledges
that but he stays down the short end of the price spectrum and does
well with it. He estimates he has won, he has made as profit, close to
$400000 from racing and has the asset backing to stop at any time. He
says he would never give back the $400000, he would appraise his
betting monthly and would order or force himself to stop if he started
to lose big. He has gone three races, three consecutive races over two
days where he has lost, so his pick on day one lost, his two picks on
day two lost, then his first pick on the next day won and then he won
again the same day and he recouped his spends. He share trades too and
has an income there and that is where Marg really assists by reading
and assessing and advising on trades, those that may rise several
cents overnight but he has so many of the shares that it amounts to a
sizeable profit and he sells and re invests in something else. His
betting method takes some mind control and a certain detachment  from
the result, if it happens it is expected, and if it doesn't trust your
method and plonk your money down again. At Caulfield one year just
prior to the Cup we were at theraces, Mark and I, Marg and others and
I had my list of bets. I was confident I had looked at all the angles
of exposed form and made my selections impartially, just off their
merits. I stayed out of the first race and Mark and Marg backed the
winner, a good size bet at 6/4 with the bookies but which paid $1.10
on the tote and he had had $1000 on there, $1000 out and $1100 back
but his profit was with the big bet with the bookies. He was happy to
look on he said, his money made. In the 2nd I backed King Zavata as a
saver, it won, at 4/1 and another which lost at 8/1 - Miss Budweiser
ridden by Malcolm Johnston. There was less than a length between the
first 6 horses. We went for a meal and watched a couple of races, and
I missed a few bets but that was ok because they failed to flatter as
they say in the racing papers, Love Bandit would have been a saver and
won whereas the prime pick lost, this was Willow Star. Then the next
race, I missed the winner and in fact almost everybody did because it
started long priced, but I got a third and this would have been my
choice of betting also. Anyway, as I said we had a meal, a rump steak
for me. The next race Mark and Marg had a sizeable bet on Shannara at
2/1 and it won and I backed Epillette at 7/1 and Monocle at 25/1 each
way and it ran second. In the Caulfield Cup I backed three runners,
Mighty Kingdom on the tote and it won paying 11.80, Warri Symbol which
ran second and Kingston Town, a good horse which however ran unplaced
today and its regular jockey, Malcolm Johnston rode the winner. Mark
and Marg may not have had a bet on the Cup. We all sat out the rest of
the meeting and I think I was on the way home before the second last
race. But it was a good day dollar wise and well the rump steak made
it for me, although the company was superb too.
Keithy, his name for himself, was fascinating to talk to. He had come
here from the UK with nothing and worked on a wheatbelt farm in WA for
a few years then went mining, prospecting and made a fortune which he
used to buy a company which went broke so he went prospecting and made
a fortune which he invested and lost it again so he went prospecting
and made a fortune but hung on to this one, bought shares, bought
equipment that he hired out, bought real estate, paid prostitutes and
went looking for pearl and abalone and coal and gold. He was wealthy
but did not flaunt it, he had an up market ute and an old Rolls Royce
and lived in an old pub on the outskirts of Melbourne. He was a friend
of Micks first I think through vehicle and trailer hire that he owned
and Mick used exclusively when he was working, they socialised a lot
and Keithy often had a girl on his arm, and often the same girl Amanda
and I don't know but I suspect she had called herself that. She stuck
to Keithy like glue and got paid for the presence he said. She felt me
up occasionally but I gracefully declined and she smiled and nodded
and said nice man, your wife lucky. Really, tell her I thought. Rose
and I had stayed with Keithy on and off when visiting earlier but Rose
was concerned about Amanda and I think tried to change her. There were
lights on all night down their end of the house and Keithy booming
baritone urging her to do more or do it again or something else. But
Keithy had made and lost several fortunes and lived it up while he had
this one to support him. He made sense sometimes when he spoke saying
that entrepeneurs like him still exist, are still prepared to roll up,
parlay everything and score big when it works or lose it all if it
doesn't. Fearless or crazy he had his actions examined by a PhD girl,
an accountant perhaps and she showed him that if he had kept a third
of what he had made and kept doing what he had done but only rolling
over the two thirds of it he would be crazy wealthy. He was he said,
crazy and wealthy, although I doubt it. He still knew the price of a
pie, the true test of a scrooge I reckon and he was good to be around
even without the amazingly sexual being that is Amanda. He liked the
races did Keithy and he was often cashed up with thousands to plonk on
something. He asked me my opinion and I was cautious, suggesting a
little on this or that or both so he would have $2000 on it and the
rails bookies asked him to bet with me mate, top fluctuation for you,
but they didn't like him too much. He won and walked off and didn't
give them a crack at getting it back plus whatever else there was in
his zipped up paper grab bag he carried his money. He took $10000 cash
and the balance in cheque and they wanted him to bet in the next but
he sat with me as I had my $40 bets with the boys in the flat. He
often had a quadrella bet, lots of combinations to win the last four
races and he would put over $1200 or $1500 just for that and he got a
few and got a few big divs as well but mostly he liked the one or two
big bets and liked it best if they won. He often asked my opinion and
the others in the group, but he had previously plonked on his and was
happy with his choice, nor did he berate you for yours, just making
conversation I think. If yours scored and his didn't he spent 10
minutes discussing the merits of both, don't worry, he had considered
the winner but chose something else because of his technique. He
watched from the stands and rode them home, a sizeable perimeter
emptying around him as boomed out his choice, he was living and
breathing the races for a while, .The rails boys were less than
exciting if he lost, a too bad so sad gesture from them to him and an
offer to take the favourite at the early price in the next but unless
he had a horse, had researched and sometimes checked with me he rarely
bet big like that. He had followers too, some who watched what he was
doing down the left side of the ring and they would run off to back it
on the tote with their $5 or give the info to the bagman for the man
they were working for, the secret service that bookies don't have.  He
had houses and he had his big place, the old pub, the pub with no beer
and no beer drinkers. They made a picture in the front bar once, used
it for some scenes. Amanda was from the Phillipines and went to
church. He would find me on course most days he was there, it was hard
to avoid him, he was taller, wider and had had more hair than me and
wore denim shorts and a sports jacket and brown shoes and light brown
socks and he was fit and strong and younger. He has a tattoo, a
failure, on his forehead near the hairline, it was done by him, in the
mirror and he can't spell. It was to be LOUISE perhaps, but of course
it is reversed and starts as ESIO, and stops, I did mention he cant
spell. There are underline lines on his forehead too, but he hasn't
got the letters inked in there yet.He was going to have it lasered
off, but you don't know its there unless he gets Amanda to shave his
head, then he wears a bandana to hide the spelling mistake. There are
others on his scalp, the equator and the tropics of Capricorn and
Cancer, and these were applied by a girl in Malmo, Sweden where he
returns every winter and she knew her work.
Mark was the studious one, a form guru I believe, a tall man and
impeccably dressed, not overstated but no denim, nice trousers and
shirt and shoes and gorgeous woman, three or four and often two
together, and he would sit with me and talk about the next and what
did I think and I said and he agreed or talked to me about his pick
and why. He had variables that he placed importance on, the jockey,
the last start, the last finish, todays weight, its barrier. He single
picked too, fined it down to one and often this meant none because he
couldn't see a ready made winner, or more often a place getter at odds
he liked. He was good though and successful. I had his notebooks for a
couple of years and could fathom his way of selecting. He became a Dad
early and left us for two years or so but said he had a leave pass
when he returned and a couple of weeks after that his partner and
their child were at the races, me holding the little tacker while she
placed a tote bet and he went off to back one on the rails. Beautiful
sleeping doll she was too, pretty like her Mum. He went full time at
it for a few years and did ok, from his notes, and on days other than
racing or form study he ran, distance with his wife and kid in a
special pram. He is a pastoralist in SA now.
Just  few more I stumbled across during my time at the track for a
couple of years back then. Keithy expected you at his banquet on
Saturday night after Amanda had gone to church. But if you have a
feasible excuse it was ok, he didn't worry too much about who came and
often there would be a few hangers on, enjoying the $700 feast and
drinks. I went to one then pulled the pin on them for the future, I
had a truck or dozer to drive on Sunday I said, and I did. Keithey is
feeling the effects of the good life and has been living in the
Phillipines for a few years.  Amanda still offers to have sex with me
but my wife won't let me have an affair so I say no to her. Crazy life
for some.


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From nick.aubrey at twonix.com  Sun Mar 12 23:40:34 2017
From: nick.aubrey at twonix.com (Nick at Twonix)
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2017 23:40:34 +1100
Subject: [AusRace] Is Favourite-Longshot Bias dead ?
Message-ID: <000c01d29b2d$e5f3cf00$b1db6d00$@twonix.com>

Hi All,

Just to let you know that I'm now updating the EPI race results on a weekly
basis so that yesterday's Saturday races (11 March 2017) are there now.

Also for those that are interested I have just posed the question on my
website .  is
<http://www.puntforprofit.com.au/2017/03/is-favourite-longshot-bias-dead/>
Favourite-Longshot Bias dead ?

Cheers,

AN

 

 

From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of Nick at Twonix
Sent: Saturday, 4 March 2017 8:18 AM
To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com>
Subject: Re: [AusRace] Access FREE race results ... and much more

 

Just to let everyone know that there is no software required to browse and
export the results available in EPI.  All you need is a web browser.

 

Using EPI stats I have just made a post looking at Michelle Payne's
performance over the last 14 months.  Interested to hear what Len thinks.

http://www.puntforprofit.com.au/2017/03/michelle-payne-the-good-the-bad-and-
the-ugly/

 

Cheers,

AN

 

 

From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of Nick at Twonix
Sent: Friday, 3 March 2017 6:55 AM
To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com
<mailto:racing at ausrace.com> >
Subject: [AusRace] Access FREE race results ... and much more

 

Hi All,

It looks like the Ausrace email list  has run its course but thought I'd do
one last post to let you know about a new racing project of mine . see
below.

Cheers,

AN

----------------------------------------------------------

 

What started as a request from an Ausrace
<http://www.ausrace.com/mailing-list/ausrace-archives/>  member  to access
Australian race results has now expanded into far more than what I thought
was possible to deliver via the internet.

 

What does  Extreme Punter Intelligence (E.P.I.) provide ?

*         You can get results of  all Australasian races run since January
2016 ... more than 233,000 horse race runs covering over 23,000 races ...
involving 38,000 horses.

*         You can select results for a particular group of races ... or all
runs for a specific horse .. or all rides for a particular jockey ... or any
jockey / trainer combination.

*         You can compare the performance of an infinite number of system
scenarios by using measures  such as Strike Rate and the powerful A2E
statistic.

*         You can export the results of any query into a CSV file.

 

And due to the power of Microsoft's hosting of their Power BI application
online (it's the BEST thing that Microsoft have ever done) a typical E.P.I
query only takes a few seconds ... amazing when you consider there are over
235,000 race result records !

To access E.P.I  you need to be a registered Member . but its FREE to join
... click here
<http://www.puntforprofit.com.au/e-p-i-extreme-punter-intelligence/e-p-i-acc
ess-details/>  to either register or login.

Oh  and can you please use AUSRACE as the Member Group when registering.

 

 

From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of Doug Robb
Sent: Thursday, 9 February 2017 2:04 AM
To: AusRace Racing Discussion List <racing at ausrace.com
<mailto:racing at ausrace.com> >
Subject: Re: [AusRace] Formatting

 

Just testing this for Mike. I've loosened up the post filters so we should
be able to post spreadsheets and/or pdf files around to make it easier to
read these sorts of posts. Also html mail should work as well so you can
post a more neatly formatted email rather than just plain text. This message
is html format with image embedded so you can see what I mean.

 

Re Len's posts if they are in the archive they will have been sent out so
maybe check junk email (or spam) on your local mailer. I  did see one post
Len that was held because it was over the size limit of 250k but I can
increase this to 500k next time I look at the defaults.

 

Also a lot of addresses have triggered automatic block to send any more mail
(since the email addresses seem to be dead). This is an example below. If
your email is bouncing because the ISP is down and its bounced 5 posts back
its blocked and I will go through and delete off the list. The subscribe
page is on the website if you want to check you are subscribed at any time,

 

Doug

 

 



 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of
mikemcb at southcom.com.au <mailto:mikemcb at southcom.com.au> 
Sent: Sunday, 5 February 2017 5:12 PM
To: Ausrace Mailing List
Subject: [AusRace] Formatting

 

Try this one then I will give up if unsuccessful...

 

TRACK                 RN         TN         HORSE               CALC1    

              FPOS     WINDIV              PLCDIV SYSTEMNAME

SUNSHINE COAST           1            5            Zukaz
68.33    1ST        1.9         1.2              BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

SINGAPORE       2            1            One Kinabalu
60.54    3RD            

              1.1         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

SALE                    8            4            Henry George
61.08    1ST        2.2         1.3              BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

ALICE SPRINGS                 1            1            Shivarchi
63.11    4TH                          

              BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

ALICE SPRINGS                 2            1            Kentucky Fireball
65          1ST        1.7              1.3         BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

ALICE SPRINGS                 3            1            Bel Maiya
66.32    2ND            

              1.7         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

MUDGEE            4            1            Sprezzatura
66.47    2ND            

              1.4         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

HOBART             5            4            Derasa                61.58
2ND            

              1.3         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

HOBART             7            1            Hot Dipped
63.33    1ST        1.7         1.2              BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

HOBART             8            7            Big Duke            62.78
2ND            

              1.4         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

BORDERTOWN                2            1            Battistoni
62.22    1ST        3.5         2.3              BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

 

 

 

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From greg.j.conroy at gmail.com  Sun Mar 12 23:45:19 2017
From: greg.j.conroy at gmail.com (Greg Conroy)
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2017 23:45:19 +1100
Subject: [AusRace] Is Favourite-Longshot Bias dead ?
In-Reply-To: <000c01d29b2d$e5f3cf00$b1db6d00$@twonix.com>
References: <000c01d29b2d$e5f3cf00$b1db6d00$@twonix.com>
Message-ID: <6DFC5943-BE24-419E-9DD3-004835C1BC1B@gmail.com>

The Question for sure Nick,

But what?s the answer without me having to call you CLICK-BAIT?

Greg


> On 12 Mar 2017, at 11:40 pm, Nick at Twonix <nick.aubrey at twonix.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> Just to let you know that I?m now updating the EPI race results on a weekly basis so that yesterday?s Saturday races (11 March 2017) are there now.
> Also for those that are interested I have just posed the question on my website ?  is Favourite-Longshot Bias <http://www.puntforprofit.com.au/2017/03/is-favourite-longshot-bias-dead/> dead ?
> Cheers,
> AN
>  
> ? <>
> From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com <mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com>] On Behalf Of Nick at Twonix
> Sent: Saturday, 4 March 2017 8:18 AM
> To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com <mailto:racing at ausrace.com>>
> Subject: Re: [AusRace] Access FREE race results ... and much more
>  
> Just to let everyone know that there is no software required to browse and export the results available in EPI.  All you need is a web browser.
>  
> Using EPI stats I have just made a post looking at Michelle Payne?s performance over the last 14 months.  Interested to hear what Len thinks.
> http://www.puntforprofit.com.au/2017/03/michelle-payne-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/ <http://www.puntforprofit.com.au/2017/03/michelle-payne-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/>
>  
> Cheers,
> AN
>  
>  
> From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com <mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com>] On Behalf Of Nick at Twonix
> Sent: Friday, 3 March 2017 6:55 AM
> To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com <mailto:racing at ausrace.com>>
> Subject: [AusRace] Access FREE race results ... and much more
>  
> Hi All,
> It looks like the Ausrace email list  has run its course but thought I?d do one last post to let you know about a new racing project of mine ? see below.
> Cheers,
> AN
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>  
> What started as a request from an Ausrace <http://www.ausrace.com/mailing-list/ausrace-archives/> member  to access Australian race results has now expanded into far more than what I thought was possible to deliver via the internet.
>  
> What does  Extreme Punter Intelligence (E.P.I.) provide ?
> ?         You can get results of  all Australasian races run since January 2016 ... more than 233,000 horse race runs covering over 23,000 races ... involving 38,000 horses.
> ?         You can select results for a particular group of races ... or all runs for a specific horse .. or all rides for a particular jockey ... or any jockey / trainer combination.
> ?         You can compare the performance of an infinite number of system scenarios by using measures  such as Strike Rate and the powerful A2E statistic.
> ?         You can export the results of any query into a CSV file.
>  
> And due to the power of Microsoft's hosting of their Power BI application online (it's the BEST thing that Microsoft have ever done) a typical E.P.I query only takes a few seconds ... amazing when you consider there are over 235,000 race result records !
> To access E.P.I  you need to be a registered Member ? but its FREE to join ... click here? <http://www.puntforprofit.com.au/e-p-i-extreme-punter-intelligence/e-p-i-access-details/>to either register or login.
> Oh  and can you please use AUSRACE as the Member Group when registering.
>  
>  
> From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com <mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com>] On Behalf Of Doug Robb
> Sent: Thursday, 9 February 2017 2:04 AM
> To: AusRace Racing Discussion List <racing at ausrace.com <mailto:racing at ausrace.com>>
> Subject: Re: [AusRace] Formatting
>  
> Just testing this for Mike. I've loosened up the post filters so we should be able to post spreadsheets and/or pdf files around to make it easier to read these sorts of posts. Also html mail should work as well so you can post a more neatly formatted email rather than just plain text. This message is html format with image embedded so you can see what I mean.
>  
> Re Len's posts if they are in the archive they will have been sent out so maybe check junk email (or spam) on your local mailer. I  did see one post Len that was held because it was over the size limit of 250k but I can increase this to 500k next time I look at the defaults.
>  
> Also a lot of addresses have triggered automatic block to send any more mail (since the email addresses seem to be dead). This is an example below. If your email is bouncing because the ISP is down and its bounced 5 posts back its blocked and I will go through and delete off the list. The subscribe page is on the website if you want to check you are subscribed at any time,
>  
> Doug
>  
>  
> <image001.png>
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com <mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com>] On Behalf Of mikemcb at southcom.com.au <mailto:mikemcb at southcom.com.au>
> Sent: Sunday, 5 February 2017 5:12 PM
> To: Ausrace Mailing List
> Subject: [AusRace] Formatting
>  
> Try this one then I will give up if unsuccessful...
>  
> TRACK                 RN         TN         HORSE               CALC1    
>               FPOS     WINDIV              PLCDIV SYSTEMNAME
> SUNSHINE COAST           1            5            Zukaz                  68.33    1ST        1.9         1.2              BETFAIR
> PLACE ONLY
> SINGAPORE       2            1            One Kinabalu                   60.54    3RD            
>               1.1         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY
> SALE                    8            4            Henry George                  61.08    1ST        2.2         1.3              BETFAIR
> PLACE ONLY
> ALICE SPRINGS                 1            1            Shivarchi           63.11    4TH                          
>               BETFAIR PLACE ONLY
> ALICE SPRINGS                 2            1            Kentucky Fireball            65          1ST        1.7              1.3         BETFAIR
> PLACE ONLY
> ALICE SPRINGS                 3            1            Bel Maiya                         66.32    2ND            
>               1.7         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY
> MUDGEE            4            1            Sprezzatura                      66.47    2ND            
>               1.4         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY
> HOBART             5            4            Derasa                61.58    2ND            
>               1.3         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY
> HOBART             7            1            Hot Dipped                      63.33    1ST        1.7         1.2              BETFAIR
> PLACE ONLY
> HOBART             8            7            Big Duke            62.78    2ND            
>               1.4         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY
> BORDERTOWN                2            1            Battistoni          62.22    1ST        3.5         2.3              BETFAIR
> PLACE ONLY
>  
>  
>  
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From nick.aubrey at twonix.com  Wed Mar 15 08:11:54 2017
From: nick.aubrey at twonix.com (Nick at Twonix)
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 08:11:54 +1100
Subject: [AusRace] Who is the best wet weather Sydney jockey ?
Message-ID: <000201d29d07$9dc597f0$d950c7d0$@twonix.com>

Hi All,

Firstly thanks to all those Ausracers who have registered for my FREE EPI
service. I now have over 30 Ausrace lurkers and one of them who I have never
meet nor talked to said  .

"I roll my own data, software and analysis, and don't pay for anything, but
this looks like the most useful (currently) free product around for the
overwhelming majority who depend on 3rd party stuff. So I'm stunned at the
evident lack of interest from those who need this most. Anyway I was able to
pick up some very useful strategy ideas after trying a few queries."

 

With the likely prospect of a wet track this Saturday in Sydney for the
Golden Slipper dash I thought I would use EPI to  give me the answer.

http://www.puntforprofit.com.au/2017/03/who-is-the-best-wet-weather-sydney-j
ockey/

 

Cheers,

AN

 

From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of Nick at Twonix
Sent: Sunday, 12 March 2017 11:41 PM
To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com>
Subject: [AusRace] Is Favourite-Longshot Bias dead ?

 

Hi All,

Just to let you know that I'm now updating the EPI race results on a weekly
basis so that yesterday's Saturday races (11 March 2017) are there now.

Also for those that are interested I have just posed the question on my
website .  is
<http://www.puntforprofit.com.au/2017/03/is-favourite-longshot-bias-dead/>
Favourite-Longshot Bias dead ?

Cheers,

AN

 

 

From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of Nick at Twonix
Sent: Saturday, 4 March 2017 8:18 AM
To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com
<mailto:racing at ausrace.com> >
Subject: Re: [AusRace] Access FREE race results ... and much more

 

Just to let everyone know that there is no software required to browse and
export the results available in EPI.  All you need is a web browser.

 

Using EPI stats I have just made a post looking at Michelle Payne's
performance over the last 14 months.  Interested to hear what Len thinks.

http://www.puntforprofit.com.au/2017/03/michelle-payne-the-good-the-bad-and-
the-ugly/

 

Cheers,

AN

 

 

From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of Nick at Twonix
Sent: Friday, 3 March 2017 6:55 AM
To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com
<mailto:racing at ausrace.com> >
Subject: [AusRace] Access FREE race results ... and much more

 

Hi All,

It looks like the Ausrace email list  has run its course but thought I'd do
one last post to let you know about a new racing project of mine . see
below.

Cheers,

AN

----------------------------------------------------------

 

What started as a request from an Ausrace
<http://www.ausrace.com/mailing-list/ausrace-archives/>  member  to access
Australian race results has now expanded into far more than what I thought
was possible to deliver via the internet.

 

What does  Extreme Punter Intelligence (E.P.I.) provide ?

*         You can get results of  all Australasian races run since January
2016 ... more than 233,000 horse race runs covering over 23,000 races ...
involving 38,000 horses.

*         You can select results for a particular group of races ... or all
runs for a specific horse .. or all rides for a particular jockey ... or any
jockey / trainer combination.

*         You can compare the performance of an infinite number of system
scenarios by using measures  such as Strike Rate and the powerful A2E
statistic.

*         You can export the results of any query into a CSV file.

 

And due to the power of Microsoft's hosting of their Power BI application
online (it's the BEST thing that Microsoft have ever done) a typical E.P.I
query only takes a few seconds ... amazing when you consider there are over
235,000 race result records !

To access E.P.I  you need to be a registered Member . but its FREE to join
... click here
<http://www.puntforprofit.com.au/e-p-i-extreme-punter-intelligence/e-p-i-acc
ess-details/>  to either register or login.

Oh  and can you please use AUSRACE as the Member Group when registering.

 

 

From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of Doug Robb
Sent: Thursday, 9 February 2017 2:04 AM
To: AusRace Racing Discussion List <racing at ausrace.com
<mailto:racing at ausrace.com> >
Subject: Re: [AusRace] Formatting

 

Just testing this for Mike. I've loosened up the post filters so we should
be able to post spreadsheets and/or pdf files around to make it easier to
read these sorts of posts. Also html mail should work as well so you can
post a more neatly formatted email rather than just plain text. This message
is html format with image embedded so you can see what I mean.

 

Re Len's posts if they are in the archive they will have been sent out so
maybe check junk email (or spam) on your local mailer. I  did see one post
Len that was held because it was over the size limit of 250k but I can
increase this to 500k next time I look at the defaults.

 

Also a lot of addresses have triggered automatic block to send any more mail
(since the email addresses seem to be dead). This is an example below. If
your email is bouncing because the ISP is down and its bounced 5 posts back
its blocked and I will go through and delete off the list. The subscribe
page is on the website if you want to check you are subscribed at any time,

 

Doug

 

 



 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of
mikemcb at southcom.com.au <mailto:mikemcb at southcom.com.au> 
Sent: Sunday, 5 February 2017 5:12 PM
To: Ausrace Mailing List
Subject: [AusRace] Formatting

 

Try this one then I will give up if unsuccessful...

 

TRACK                 RN         TN         HORSE               CALC1    

              FPOS     WINDIV              PLCDIV SYSTEMNAME

SUNSHINE COAST           1            5            Zukaz
68.33    1ST        1.9         1.2              BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

SINGAPORE       2            1            One Kinabalu
60.54    3RD            

              1.1         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

SALE                    8            4            Henry George
61.08    1ST        2.2         1.3              BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

ALICE SPRINGS                 1            1            Shivarchi
63.11    4TH                          

              BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

ALICE SPRINGS                 2            1            Kentucky Fireball
65          1ST        1.7              1.3         BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

ALICE SPRINGS                 3            1            Bel Maiya
66.32    2ND            

              1.7         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

MUDGEE            4            1            Sprezzatura
66.47    2ND            

              1.4         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

HOBART             5            4            Derasa                61.58
2ND            

              1.3         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

HOBART             7            1            Hot Dipped
63.33    1ST        1.7         1.2              BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

HOBART             8            7            Big Duke            62.78
2ND            

              1.4         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

BORDERTOWN                2            1            Battistoni
62.22    1ST        3.5         2.3              BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

 

 

 

_______________________________________________

Racing mailing list

 <mailto:Racing at ausrace.com> Racing at ausrace.com

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From mikemcb at southcom.com.au  Wed Mar 15 12:10:37 2017
From: mikemcb at southcom.com.au (Mike McBain)
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 12:10:37 +1100
Subject: [AusRace] Who is the best wet weather Sydney jockey ?
In-Reply-To: <000201d29d07$9dc597f0$d950c7d0$@twonix.com>
References: <000201d29d07$9dc597f0$d950c7d0$@twonix.com>
Message-ID: <000c01d29d28$f4c3a1c0$de4ae540$@com.au>

Thanks Nick most interesting and hope my time permits a closer look soon.

 

Mike.

 

From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of Nick at Twonix
Sent: Wednesday, 15 March 2017 8:12 AM
To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List'
Subject: [AusRace] Who is the best wet weather Sydney jockey ?

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From norsaintpublishing at gmail.com  Wed Mar 15 18:05:08 2017
From: norsaintpublishing at gmail.com (norsaintpublishing at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 18:05:08 +1100
Subject: [AusRace] Who is the best wet weather Sydney jockey ?
In-Reply-To: <000c01d29d28$f4c3a1c0$de4ae540$@com.au>
References: <000201d29d07$9dc597f0$d950c7d0$@twonix.com>
	<000c01d29d28$f4c3a1c0$de4ae540$@com.au>
Message-ID: <CAJfP4b39PYX=thSFiwtfMapQ1_tMbMJ-rhgkgThfxjNbf5FUaQ@mail.gmail.com>

Nick,
    It wouldn't let me in a couple of days ago. I got a message about
someone or other being notified to update login details and then nothing,




  <https://mailtrack.io/> Sent with Mailtrack
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On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Mike McBain <mikemcb at southcom.com.au>
wrote:

> Thanks Nick most interesting and hope my time permits a closer look soon.
>
>
>
> Mike.
>
>
>
> *From:* Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] *On Behalf Of *Nick at
> Twonix
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From nick.aubrey at twonix.com  Wed Mar 15 22:30:17 2017
From: nick.aubrey at twonix.com (Nick at Twonix)
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 22:30:17 +1100
Subject: [AusRace] Who is the best wet weather Sydney jockey ?
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Hi Norsaint,

I emailed you offline with the EPI password. That?s for access to EPI data. 

You don?t need to login to EPI to read my article on best Wet Weather Sydney jockey.

Did you sort out your issue ?

Cheers,

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Nick,

    It wouldn't let me in a couple of days ago. I got a message about someone or other being notified to update login details and then nothing,






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Thanks Nick most interesting and hope my time permits a closer look soon.

 

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Aap now provide synthetic track stats instead of the old ?Dead? stats. However BestForm lump them in with the ?Good? figures. 

Does anyone have an opinion on which is the best approach? Is it reasonable to expect variations between some horses? performances over the 2 types of surface?

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From kernow.fords at ntlworld.com  Thu Mar 16 10:34:43 2017
From: kernow.fords at ntlworld.com (Robert Ford)
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 23:34:43 -0000
Subject: [AusRace] Synthetic track stats
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Steve W

 

If you look at the sires who dominate on turf and Synthetic (called all-weather in UK) there are pronounced differences.

The synthetics are far slower, have less traction, have some kickback and are more stamina requiring particularly as they age or rubber /coatings turns to dust/sand particles

 

Sire All Weather to Turf A/E Ratio


Sire

AW A/E

Turf A/E

Ratio


Royal Academy(USA)

1.02

0.60

1.70


Chester House(USA)

1.31

0.83

1.58


Bigstone(IRE)

1.09

0.70

1.56


Woodman(USA)

0.89

0.59

1.51


Best of The Bests(IRE)

0.92

0.62

1.48


Jade Robbery(USA)

1.17

0.81

1.44


Swain(IRE)

1.27

0.88

1.44


Theatrical

1.11

0.77

1.44


Fantastic Light(USA)

1.04

0.73

1.42


City On A Hill(USA)

0.81

0.57

1.42


Warning

0.96

0.69

1.39


Stravinsky(USA)

0.96

0.69

1.39


Haafhd

1.16

0.84

1.38


Arch(USA)

1.35

0.98

1.38


Kylian(USA)

1.18

0.86

1.37


Desert Sun

1.09

0.80

1.36


Millkom

1.17

0.87

1.34


Spectrum(IRE)

0.99

0.74

1.34


Distant View(USA)

0.92

0.69

1.33


Dubai Destination(USA)

1.11

0.84

1.32


Bahhare(USA)

1.03

0.78

1.32


Anabaa(USA)

0.99

0.75

1.32


Exceed And Excel(AUS)

1.09

0.83

1.31


Chevalier(IRE)

1.29

0.99

1.30


Princely Heir(IRE)

1.08

0.83

1.30


Storming Home

1.05

0.82

1.28


Linamix(FR)

1.02

0.80

1.27


Deploy

1.19

0.94

1.27


Piccolo

0.92

0.73

1.26


Fasliyev(USA)

0.89

0.71

1.25


Petardia

0.80

0.64

1.25


Woodborough(USA)

0.88

0.72

1.22


Lujain(USA)

0.93

0.77

1.21


Fusaichi Pegasus(USA)

0.90

0.75

1.20


Dubawi(IRE)

1.34

1.12

1.20


Dansili

1.04

0.87

1.20


Wizard King

0.86

0.72

1.19


Daylami(IRE)

0.99

0.83

1.19


Grand Lodge(USA)

1.01

0.85

1.19


Shinko Forest(IRE)

1.23

1.04

1.18


Vettori(IRE)

0.86

0.73

1.18


Definite Article

1.00

0.85

1.18


Josr Algarhoud(IRE)

0.89

0.76

1.17


Rahy(USA)

1.17

1.00

1.17


Nayef(USA)

0.86

0.74

1.16


Case Law

0.94

0.81

1.16


Daggers Drawn(USA)

0.95

0.82

1.16


Victory Note(USA)

0.81

0.70

1.16


Red Ransom(USA)

0.89

0.77

1.16


Gulch(USA)

0.75

0.65

1.15


Bertolini(USA)

0.94

0.82

1.15


Bold Edge

0.89

0.78

1.14


Mujahid(USA)

1.06

0.93

1.14


Key Of Luck(USA)

0.99

0.87

1.14


Kheleyf(USA)

0.83

0.73

1.14


Fraam

0.88

0.78

1.13


Indian Rocket

0.97

0.86

1.13


Bahri(USA)

0.74

0.66

1.12


Danzig Connection(USA)

0.74

0.66

1.12


Forzando

0.76

0.68

1.12


Elusive Quality(USA)

0.89

0.80

1.11


Green Desert(USA)

0.92

0.83

1.11


Groom Dancer(USA)

0.84

0.76

1.11


Seeking The Gold(USA)

0.89

0.81

1.10


Distant Relative

1.03

0.94

1.10


Zafonic(USA)

0.94

0.86

1.09


One Cool Cat(USA)

1.06

0.97

1.09


Charnwood Forest(IRE)

0.88

0.81

1.09


Marju(IRE)

0.89

0.82

1.09


Sure Blade(USA)

1.16

1.07

1.08


Shamardal(USA)

0.91

0.84

1.08


Intikhab(USA)

1.05

0.97

1.08


Hernando(FR)

0.99

0.92

1.08


Singspiel(IRE)

0.99

0.92

1.08


Primo Dominie

0.85

0.79

1.08


Perugino(USA)

0.87

0.81

1.07


Komaite(USA)

0.88

0.82

1.07


Kingmambo(USA)

1.03

0.96

1.07


Efisio

0.91

0.85

1.07


Most Welcome

1.13

1.06

1.07


King's Best(USA)

0.91

0.86

1.06


Lake Coniston(IRE)

0.76

0.72

1.06


Danehill(USA)

0.95

0.90

1.06


Soviet Star(USA)

0.85

0.81

1.05


Lend A Hand

0.87

0.83

1.05


Statue Of Liberty(USA)

0.89

0.85

1.05


General Monash(USA)

0.67

0.64

1.05


Elnadim(USA)

0.93

0.89

1.04


Desert Story(IRE)

0.71

0.68

1.04


Johannesburg(USA)

0.75

0.72

1.04


King Charlemagne(USA)

0.81

0.78

1.04


Emperor Jones(USA)

0.82

0.79

1.04


Desert Prince(IRE)

0.84

0.81

1.04


Desert Style(IRE)

0.85

0.82

1.04


Mark of Esteem(IRE)

0.86

0.83

1.04


Rainbow Quest(USA)

0.90

0.87

1.03


King's Signet(USA)

0.93

0.90

1.03


Lion Cavern(USA)

0.80

0.78

1.03


Sri Pekan(USA)

0.84

0.82

1.02


Trans Island

0.87

0.85

1.02


Monashee Mountain(USA)

0.89

0.87

1.02


Celtic Swing

0.95

0.93

1.02


Bluebird(USA)

0.70

0.69

1.01


Eagle Eyed(USA)

0.71

0.70

1.01


First Trump

0.74

0.73

1.01


Iron Mask(USA)

0.77

0.76

1.01


Entrepreneur

0.86

0.85

1.01


Magic Ring(IRE)

0.86

0.85

1.01


Invincible Spirit(IRE)

0.93

0.92

1.01


Namaqualand(USA)

0.95

0.94

1.01


Spinning World(USA)

1.00

0.99

1.01


Lycius(USA)

0.88

0.88

1.00


Bien Bien(USA)

0.82

0.82

1.00


Cape Cross(IRE)

1.00

1.00

1.00


Ashkalani(IRE)

0.77

0.77

1.00


Cadeaux Genereux

0.93

0.93

1.00


Catrail(USA)

0.99

0.99

1.00


Street Cry(IRE)

0.88

0.89

0.99


Selkirk(USA)

0.87

0.88

0.99


Namid

0.86

0.87

0.99


Fath(USA)

0.85

0.86

0.99


Ali-Royal(IRE)

0.80

0.81

0.99


Oasis Dream

0.96

0.98

0.98


Danzero(AUS)

0.94

0.96

0.98


Docksider(USA)

0.93

0.95

0.98


Alzao(USA)

0.87

0.89

0.98


Acclamation

0.76

0.78

0.97


Xaar

0.70

0.72

0.97


Wolfhound(USA)

0.66

0.68

0.97


Tiger Hill(IRE)

0.99

1.02

0.97


Tagula(IRE)

0.94

0.97

0.97


Medicean

0.91

0.94

0.97


Dr Fong(USA)

0.84

0.87

0.97


Mtoto

0.81

0.84

0.96


Compton Place

0.77

0.80

0.96


Hawk Wing(USA)

0.76

0.79

0.96


Alhaarth(IRE)

0.75

0.78

0.96


Orpen(USA)

0.95

0.99

0.96


Danetime(IRE)

0.89

0.93

0.96


Lear Fan(USA)

0.88

0.92

0.96


Diktat

0.77

0.81

0.95


Bold Fact(USA)

0.77

0.81

0.95


Distant Music(USA)

0.72

0.76

0.95


Polar Prince(IRE)

0.89

0.94

0.95


Whittingham(IRE)

0.70

0.74

0.95


Titus Livius(FR)

0.82

0.87

0.94


Barathea(IRE)

0.80

0.85

0.94


Lugana Beach

0.79

0.84

0.94


Imperial Ballet(IRE)

0.76

0.81

0.94


Royal Applause

0.75

0.80

0.94


Zamindar(USA)

0.71

0.76

0.93


Presidium

0.69

0.74

0.93


Pivotal

0.95

1.02

0.93


King's Theatre(IRE)

0.91

0.98

0.93


Halling(USA)

0.91

0.98

0.93


Second Empire(IRE)

0.91

0.98

0.93


Clodovil(IRE)

0.89

0.96

0.93


Choisir(AUS)

0.88

0.95

0.93


Beveled(USA)

0.82

0.89

0.92


Gone West(USA)

0.69

0.75

0.92


Diesis

0.80

0.87

0.92


Dolphin Street(FR)

0.78

0.86

0.91


Galileo(IRE)

0.86

0.95

0.91


Common Grounds

0.76

0.84

0.90


Pursuit Of Love

0.76

0.84

0.90


Where Or When(IRE)

0.95

1.05

0.90


Generous(IRE)

0.75

0.83

0.90


Bin Ajwaad(IRE)

0.83

0.92

0.90


Foxhound(USA)

0.64

0.71

0.90


Paris House

0.73

0.81

0.90


Atraf

0.85

0.95

0.89


Muhtarram(USA)

0.74

0.83

0.89


Rudimentary(USA)

0.79

0.89

0.89


Tomba

0.85

0.96

0.89


Kyllachy

0.76

0.86

0.88


Auction House(USA)

0.68

0.77

0.88


Machiavellian(USA)

0.83

0.94

0.88


Mujadil(USA)

0.76

0.87

0.87


Hunting Lion(IRE)

0.76

0.87

0.87


Elmaamul(USA)

0.67

0.77

0.87


Ishiguru(USA)

0.86

0.99

0.87


Nashwan(USA)

0.79

0.91

0.87


Giant's Causeway(USA)

0.79

0.91

0.87


Indian Ridge

0.79

0.91

0.87


Pennekamp(USA)

0.72

0.83

0.87


Rossini(USA)

0.65

0.75

0.87


Night Shift(USA)

0.75

0.87

0.86


Noverre(USA)

0.87

1.01

0.86


Verglas(IRE)

0.74

0.86

0.86


Kahyasi

0.90

1.05

0.86


Captain Rio

0.78

0.91

0.86


Lahib(USA)

0.70

0.82

0.85


Bahamian Bounty

0.80

0.94

0.85


Indian Lodge(IRE)

0.74

0.87

0.85


Averti(IRE)

0.73

0.86

0.85


Prince Sabo

0.61

0.72

0.85


Mozart(IRE)

0.71

0.84

0.85


Beat Hollow

0.91

1.08

0.84


Danzig(USA)

0.79

0.94

0.84


Redback

0.84

1.00

0.84


Robellino(USA)

0.68

0.81

0.84


Indian Danehill(IRE)

0.68

0.81

0.84


Mind Games

0.62

0.74

0.84


Darshaan

0.72

0.86

0.84


Polish Precedent(USA)

0.66

0.79

0.84


Mister Baileys

0.79

0.95

0.83


Emarati(USA)

0.64

0.77

0.83


Montjeu(IRE)

0.78

0.94

0.83


Monsieur Bond(IRE)

0.69

0.86

0.80


In The Wings

0.78

0.98

0.80


Makbul

0.74

0.94

0.79


Brief Truce(USA)

0.72

0.92

0.78


Danehill Dancer(IRE)

0.70

0.90

0.78


Hurricane Sky(AUS)

0.96

1.24

0.77


Desert King(IRE)

0.65

0.84

0.77


Turtle Island(IRE)

0.64

0.83

0.77


Polar Falcon(USA)

0.84

1.09

0.77


Lomitas

0.80

1.04

0.77


Primo Valentino(IRE)

0.66

0.86

0.77


Fayruz

0.59

0.78

0.76


Sadler's Wells(USA)

0.68

0.90

0.76


Act One

0.92

1.22

0.75


Bishop of Cashel

0.93

1.25

0.74


Observatory(USA)

0.63

0.85

0.74


Sakhee(USA)

0.79

1.07

0.74


Tobougg(IRE)

0.68

0.94

0.72


Revoque(IRE)

0.63

0.88

0.72


Rock Of Gibraltar(IRE)

0.65

0.95

0.68


Unfuwain(USA)

0.65

0.96

0.68


Peintre Celebre(USA)

0.67

0.99

0.68


Inchinor

0.60

0.98

0.61


Zilzal(USA)

0.49

0.89

0.55


Mull of Kintyre(USA)

0.52

1.06

0.49

 

Robert

 

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Subject: [AusRace] Synthetic track stats

 

Aap now provide synthetic track stats instead of the old ?Dead? stats. However BestForm lump them in with the ?Good? figures. 

 

Does anyone have an opinion on which is the best approach? Is it reasonable to expect variations between some horses? performances over the 2 types of surface?

 

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From: swallis at bigpond.com.au (swallis at bigpond.com.au)
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 13:45:43 +1100
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Robert,

You might have to clarify that for me if you can. To me it seems half the sires have better synthetic returns and the other half better turf returns. How does that show a bias for or against either surface?  

regards,

Steve


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Steve W

 

If you look at the sires who dominate on turf and Synthetic (called all-weather in UK) there are pronounced differences.

The synthetics are far slower, have less traction, have some kickback and are more stamina requiring particularly as they age or rubber /coatings turns to dust/sand particles

 


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From mikemcb at southcom.com.au  Thu Mar 16 14:58:38 2017
From: mikemcb at southcom.com.au (Mike McBain)
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 14:58:38 +1100
Subject: [AusRace] The poor punter pays again?
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Gaming company Tabcorp has been fined $45 million for breaching anti-money
laundering and counter-terrorism financing laws.

It is the highest civil penalty in Australian corporate history.

The Federal Court found that Tabcorp broke the law on 108 occasions over
five years.

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From kernow.fords at ntlworld.com  Fri Mar 17 00:30:15 2017
From: kernow.fords at ntlworld.com (Robert Ford)
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 13:30:15 -0000
Subject: [AusRace] Synthetic track stats
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Steve,

 

Take :


Sire

AW A/E

Turf A/E

Ratio


Royal Academy(USA)

1.02

0.60

1.70

 

The A/E ratio (Achieved over Expected from the Odds) makes Royal Academy?s OK on the synthetic but an underachiever (or over-bet) on the Turf.

The Ration 1.70 shows how much better offspring are on the synthetics than the turf.

 

At the bottom of the list:

 


Mull of Kintyre(USA)

0.52

1.06

0.49

 

Indicates the reverse. Mull of Kintyre?s are very poor on the synthetics but OK on the turf.

 

If there were no difference between synthetics and turf, then the A/E numbers would tend towards being equal.

So RA would tend to be a 0.81 on both surfaces and MOK a 0.79, but they are polar opposites on these surfaces.

 

Breeding, conformation and energy production rates make horses better at different course configurations, going, distances , surface, humidity and pace.

You can produce A/E tables for each of those factors. I have just given the example for what you asked.

What is valid for UK courses won?t be so valid for Aus courses ? due to the huge differences in conditions.

 

We find it very useful for estimating how a horse might perform first time out on AW or turf after only racing on the other one of those surfaces.

Horses are often over or under-bet in such circumstances.

 

Robert

 

 

From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of swallis at bigpond.com.au
Sent: 16 March 2017 02:46
To: AusRace Racing Discussion List
Subject: Re: [AusRace] Synthetic track stats

 

Robert,

 

You might have to clarify that for me if you can. To me it seems half the sires have better synthetic returns and the other half better turf returns. How does that show a bias for or against either surface?  

 

regards,

 

Steve

 

 

From: Robert Ford <mailto:kernow.fords at ntlworld.com>  

Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 10:34 AM

To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <mailto:racing at ausrace.com>  

Subject: Re: [AusRace] Synthetic track stats

 

Steve W

 

If you look at the sires who dominate on turf and Synthetic (called all-weather in UK) there are pronounced differences.

The synthetics are far slower, have less traction, have some kickback and are more stamina requiring particularly as they age or rubber /coatings turns to dust/sand particles

 

 


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From swallis at bigpond.com.au  Fri Mar 17 09:34:06 2017
From: swallis at bigpond.com.au (swallis at bigpond.com.au)
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2017 09:34:06 +1100
Subject: [AusRace] Synthetic track stats
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Thanks Robert,

I think that?s taking the science of Betology further than I want to go as an Excel hobbyist / Saturday peanuts punter. I?m not even sure we have those sort of statistics readily available.

Your comments though confirm my suspicion that Synthetics and Good shouldn?t be lumped together ? a bit like tennis players on grass vs clay.

At the moment it?s not hugely important, as we have few synthetic tracks and none in Metropolitan areas. I wouldn?t be surprised to see them in Brisbane and Sydney though, where there are many rain affected meetings. 

Anyway, thanks again for your input.

Regards

steve

From: Robert Ford 
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 12:30 AM
To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' 
Subject: Re: [AusRace] Synthetic track stats

Steve,

 

Take :

      Sire
     AW A/E
     Turf A/E
     Ratio
     
      Royal Academy(USA)
     1.02
     0.60
     1.70
     

 

The A/E ratio (Achieved over Expected from the Odds) makes Royal Academy?s OK on the synthetic but an underachiever (or over-bet) on the Turf.

The Ration 1.70 shows how much better offspring are on the synthetics than the turf.

 

At the bottom of the list:

 

      Mull of Kintyre(USA)
     0.52
     1.06
     0.49
     

 

Indicates the reverse. Mull of Kintyre?s are very poor on the synthetics but OK on the turf.

 

If there were no difference between synthetics and turf, then the A/E numbers would tend towards being equal.

So RA would tend to be a 0.81 on both surfaces and MOK a 0.79, but they are polar opposites on these surfaces.

 

Breeding, conformation and energy production rates make horses better at different course configurations, going, distances , surface, humidity and pace.

You can produce A/E tables for each of those factors. I have just given the example for what you asked.

What is valid for UK courses won?t be so valid for Aus courses ? due to the huge differences in conditions.

 

We find it very useful for estimating how a horse might perform first time out on AW or turf after only racing on the other one of those surfaces.

Horses are often over or under-bet in such circumstances.

 

Robert

 


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From nick.aubrey at twonix.com  Sun Mar 26 08:33:02 2017
From: nick.aubrey at twonix.com (Nick at Twonix)
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2017 08:33:02 +1100
Subject: [AusRace] Is Favourite-Longshot Bias dead ?
Message-ID: <002801d2a5af$62c7b240$285716c0$@twonix.com>

Hi All,

Still very slow on Ausrace . have not received a new post in over 2 weeks so
I thought I'd send one .

 

I have added TRACK CONDITION to the FLB query so you can now see how FLB
results change according to various track conditions. The results astounded
me. Especially useful with more heavy tracks forecast in Sydney for the
Championships. If you are interest just  click on Is
<http://www.puntforprofit.com.au/2017/03/is-favourite-longshot-bias-dead/>
Favourite-Longshot Bias Dead  and follow the prompts. It's all FREE !

 

I have now uploaded race results from yesterday (Saturday 25th Match) plus I
have extended the results back to the start of 2013. That's now OVER A
MILLION horse race records that can be queried in the twinkling of an eye. I
tell you what . Microsoft's  Power BI application is a game changer for ANY
business . not  just Horse Racing.  

 

Enjoy,

AN

 

 

From: Nick at Twonix [mailto:nick.aubrey at twonix.com] 
Sent: Sunday, 12 March 2017 11:41 PM
To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com>
Subject: Is Favourite-Longshot Bias dead ?

 

Hi All,

Just to let you know that I'm now updating the EPI race results on a weekly
basis so that yesterday's Saturday races (11 March 2017) are there now.

Also for those that are interested I have just posed the question on my
website .  is
<http://www.puntforprofit.com.au/2017/03/is-favourite-longshot-bias-dead/>
Favourite-Longshot Bias dead ?

Cheers,

AN

 

 

From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of Nick at Twonix
Sent: Saturday, 4 March 2017 8:18 AM
To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com
<mailto:racing at ausrace.com> >
Subject: Re: [AusRace] Access FREE race results ... and much more

 

Just to let everyone know that there is no software required to browse and
export the results available in EPI.  All you need is a web browser.

 

Using EPI stats I have just made a post looking at Michelle Payne's
performance over the last 14 months.  Interested to hear what Len thinks.

http://www.puntforprofit.com.au/2017/03/michelle-payne-the-good-the-bad-and-
the-ugly/

 

Cheers,

AN

 

 

From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of Nick at Twonix
Sent: Friday, 3 March 2017 6:55 AM
To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com
<mailto:racing at ausrace.com> >
Subject: [AusRace] Access FREE race results ... and much more

 

Hi All,

It looks like the Ausrace email list  has run its course but thought I'd do
one last post to let you know about a new racing project of mine . see
below.

Cheers,

AN

----------------------------------------------------------

 

What started as a request from an Ausrace
<http://www.ausrace.com/mailing-list/ausrace-archives/>  member  to access
Australian race results has now expanded into far more than what I thought
was possible to deliver via the internet.

 

What does  Extreme Punter Intelligence (E.P.I.) provide ?

*         You can get results of  all Australasian races run since January
2016 ... more than 233,000 horse race runs covering over 23,000 races ...
involving 38,000 horses.

*         You can select results for a particular group of races ... or all
runs for a specific horse .. or all rides for a particular jockey ... or any
jockey / trainer combination.

*         You can compare the performance of an infinite number of system
scenarios by using measures  such as Strike Rate and the powerful A2E
statistic.

*         You can export the results of any query into a CSV file.

 

And due to the power of Microsoft's hosting of their Power BI application
online (it's the BEST thing that Microsoft have ever done) a typical E.P.I
query only takes a few seconds ... amazing when you consider there are over
235,000 race result records !

To access E.P.I  you need to be a registered Member . but its FREE to join
... click here
<http://www.puntforprofit.com.au/e-p-i-extreme-punter-intelligence/e-p-i-acc
ess-details/>  to either register or login.

Oh  and can you please use AUSRACE as the Member Group when registering.

 

 

From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of Doug Robb
Sent: Thursday, 9 February 2017 2:04 AM
To: AusRace Racing Discussion List <racing at ausrace.com
<mailto:racing at ausrace.com> >
Subject: Re: [AusRace] Formatting

 

Just testing this for Mike. I've loosened up the post filters so we should
be able to post spreadsheets and/or pdf files around to make it easier to
read these sorts of posts. Also html mail should work as well so you can
post a more neatly formatted email rather than just plain text. This message
is html format with image embedded so you can see what I mean.

 

Re Len's posts if they are in the archive they will have been sent out so
maybe check junk email (or spam) on your local mailer. I  did see one post
Len that was held because it was over the size limit of 250k but I can
increase this to 500k next time I look at the defaults.

 

Also a lot of addresses have triggered automatic block to send any more mail
(since the email addresses seem to be dead). This is an example below. If
your email is bouncing because the ISP is down and its bounced 5 posts back
its blocked and I will go through and delete off the list. The subscribe
page is on the website if you want to check you are subscribed at any time,

 

Doug

 

 



 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of
mikemcb at southcom.com.au <mailto:mikemcb at southcom.com.au> 
Sent: Sunday, 5 February 2017 5:12 PM
To: Ausrace Mailing List
Subject: [AusRace] Formatting

 

Try this one then I will give up if unsuccessful...

 

TRACK                 RN         TN         HORSE               CALC1    

              FPOS     WINDIV              PLCDIV SYSTEMNAME

SUNSHINE COAST           1            5            Zukaz
68.33    1ST        1.9         1.2              BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

SINGAPORE       2            1            One Kinabalu
60.54    3RD            

              1.1         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

SALE                    8            4            Henry George
61.08    1ST        2.2         1.3              BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

ALICE SPRINGS                 1            1            Shivarchi
63.11    4TH                          

              BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

ALICE SPRINGS                 2            1            Kentucky Fireball
65          1ST        1.7              1.3         BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

ALICE SPRINGS                 3            1            Bel Maiya
66.32    2ND            

              1.7         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

MUDGEE            4            1            Sprezzatura
66.47    2ND            

              1.4         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

HOBART             5            4            Derasa                61.58
2ND            

              1.3         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

HOBART             7            1            Hot Dipped
63.33    1ST        1.7         1.2              BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

HOBART             8            7            Big Duke            62.78
2ND            

              1.4         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

BORDERTOWN                2            1            Battistoni
62.22    1ST        3.5         2.3              BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

 

 

 

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From mikemcb at southcom.com.au  Sun Mar 26 09:19:12 2017
From: mikemcb at southcom.com.au (Mike McBain)
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2017 09:19:12 +1100
Subject: [AusRace] Is Favourite-Longshot Bias dead ?
In-Reply-To: <002801d2a5af$62c7b240$285716c0$@twonix.com>
References: <002801d2a5af$62c7b240$285716c0$@twonix.com>
Message-ID: <000501d2a5b5$d4dfdc30$7e9f9490$@com.au>

Nick & Co

 

Thanks again for your interesting work using that MS BI program.

 

I have been playing with Bet Selector recently and found a profitable
relationship between last start Barrier Trial winners and close seconds and
next start winners.

Not sure if you have that Stat available to investigate further?

 

Cheers

 

Mike.

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From nick.aubrey at twonix.com  Sun Mar 26 09:41:30 2017
From: nick.aubrey at twonix.com (Nick at Twonix)
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2017 09:41:30 +1100
Subject: [AusRace] Is Favourite-Longshot Bias dead ?
In-Reply-To: <000501d2a5b5$d4dfdc30$7e9f9490$@com.au>
References: <002801d2a5af$62c7b240$285716c0$@twonix.com>
	<000501d2a5b5$d4dfdc30$7e9f9490$@com.au>
Message-ID: <003a01d2a5b8$f343fb90$d9cbf2b0$@twonix.com>

Hi Mike,

Thanks for your reply. It's good to know there is still some Ausracers
remaining :)

 

The results data currently only includes the  on-the-day data. 

But in the future I do intend to extend it to include past form data.
Including barrier trials. 

For example below is the list of today's runners that have had 2 or more
barrier trials since their last run. The best being 03 Specific Choice 7yo g
(Ben_Looker) at Scone.

 

Cheers,

AN

 

 

Ratings values   Max Bookie Odds            Fin Pos  rce sts

Sunday, 26 March 2017                                  

13:30 Ballarat R2                                               

Ballarat R02 Eclipse Ford Mdn Plate 1200m Mdn 3yo+  1:30 PM GOOD (9->8)

03 River Fox 5yo g (Jarrod_Todd)              34           0              3

                                                

13:40 Scone R2                                  

Scone R02 Dimmock's Quality Meats Mdn 1000m Mdn   1:40 PM SOFT (18->14)

12 Lady Iveagh 3yo f (Glyn_Schofield)    5.5          0              2

                                                

14:15 Naracoorte R2                                       

Naracoorte R02 Tdc Livestock Mdn Plate 1430m Mdn 3yo+  2:15 PM SOFT (13->12)

03 Need Pragmatism 4yo g (Kayla_Crowther)     3.4          0              7

                                                

14:30 Ballarat R4                                               

Ballarat R04 C.E Bartlett Mdn Plate 1600m Mdn   2:30 PM GOOD (10->9) 

04 Paradise Cove [USA] 3yo c (Beau_Mertens) 2.8          0              2

                                                

15:25 Naracoorte R4                                       

Naracoorte R04 Pph&S (Bm72) 1200m BM72   3:25 PM SOFT (8->8)           

02 Edgewood 7yo g (Kayla_Crowther)    2.6          0              37

                                                

15:45 Sunshine Coast R4                                               

Sunshine Coast R04 Yalumba Mdn Hcp 1200m Mdn 3yo+  3:45 PM HEAVY (12->8)

05 Ernie's Ego 3yo g (James_Orman)       13           0              1

                                                

15:50 Hobart R4                                

Hobart R04 Gee Gee Horse Stud Hcp (C1) 1100m Cls 1   3:50 PM SOFT (9->8)

09 Kirribilli Kid 5yo m (Mehmet_Ulucinar)             51           0
22

                                                

16:10 Scone R6                                  

Scone R06 Balmoral Hcp 1300m Open   4:10 PM SOFT (11->9)


03 Specific Choice 7yo g (Ben_Looker)    3.9          0              39

                                                

16:35 Ballarat R8                                               

Ballarat R08 Sportsbet's Racing Form (Bm78) 1400m BM78   4:35 PM GOOD (9->7)

05 Grand Dreamer 6yo g (Ben#E_Thompson)     3.6          0              30

                                                

16:53 Mount Barker R2                                  

Mt Barker R02 Triangulee Mdn 1200m Mdn 2yo+  4:53 PM GOOD (13->11)

13 Exexcel 3yo f (Tayla_Stone)   41           0              3

12 Ying Yang Middle 5yo m (Lee_Newman)          41           0
1

                                                

17:25 Scone R8                                  

Scone R08 Jts Realty Hcp (C1) 1300m Cls 1   5:25 PM SOFT (18->11)


08 Schedule 5yo g (Chad_Lever)               6.5          0              4

07 Hunter Caulfield 5yo g (Alison_Threadwell)    17           0
2

 

 

From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of Mike McBain
Sent: Sunday, 26 March 2017 9:19 AM
To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com>
Subject: Re: [AusRace] Is Favourite-Longshot Bias dead ?

 

Nick & Co

 

Thanks again for your interesting work using that MS BI program.

 

I have been playing with Bet Selector recently and found a profitable
relationship between last start Barrier Trial winners and close seconds and
next start winners.

Not sure if you have that Stat available to investigate further?

 

Cheers

 

Mike.

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From womble at internode.on.net  Mon Mar 27 15:09:53 2017
From: womble at internode.on.net (Paul)
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 15:09:53 +1100
Subject: [AusRace] Is Favourite-Longshot Bias dead ?
Message-ID: <mbh69d02w80ixm2yhd5dfxa4.1490587793219@email.android.com>


    
G'day Nick
Had a little look this afternoon and think it's kind of interesting.?
Couple of things. Is the export limited to 30,000 records or is that just a limitation at my end?
I was hoping to be able to check how some stats were holding up from a book i had years ago around the first 5 in the market but your data doesn't seem to have that? Well not without a bit more work anyway
Overall though, if anyone is big on stats they should have a look
Cheers
Paul


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-------- Original message --------
From: Nick at Twonix <nick.aubrey at twonix.com> 
Date: 26/03/2017  08:33  (GMT+10:00) 
To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com> 
Subject: Re: [AusRace] Is Favourite-Longshot Bias dead ? 

Hi All,Still very slow on Ausrace ? have not received a new post in over 2 weeks so I thought I?d send one ??I have added TRACK CONDITION to the FLB query so you can now see how FLB results change according to various track conditions. The results astounded me. Especially useful with more heavy tracks forecast in Sydney for the Championships. If you are interest just ?click on Is Favourite-Longshot Bias?Dead ?and follow the prompts. It?s all FREE !?I have now uploaded race results from yesterday (Saturday 25th Match) plus I have extended the results back to the start of 2013. That?s now OVER A MILLION horse race records that can be queried in the twinkling of an eye. I tell you what ? Microsoft?s ?Power BI application is a game changer for ANY business ? not ?just Horse Racing.? ?Enjoy,AN??From: Nick at Twonix [mailto:nick.aubrey at twonix.com] 
Sent: Sunday, 12 March 2017 11:41 PM
To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com>
Subject: Is Favourite-Longshot Bias dead ??Hi All,Just to let you know that I?m now updating the EPI race results on a weekly basis so that yesterday?s Saturday races (11 March 2017) are there now.Also for those that are interested I have just posed the question on my website ? ?is Favourite-Longshot Bias?dead ?Cheers,AN??From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of Nick at Twonix
Sent: Saturday, 4 March 2017 8:18 AM
To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com>
Subject: Re: [AusRace] Access FREE race results ... and much more?Just to let everyone know that there is no software required to browse and export the results available in EPI. ?All you need is a web browser.?Using EPI stats I have just made a post looking at Michelle Payne?s performance over the last 14 months. ?Interested to hear what Len thinks.http://www.puntforprofit.com.au/2017/03/michelle-payne-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/?Cheers,AN??From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of Nick at Twonix
Sent: Friday, 3 March 2017 6:55 AM
To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com>
Subject: [AusRace] Access FREE race results ... and much more?Hi All,It looks like the Ausrace email list ?has run its course but thought I?d do one last post to let you know about a new racing project of mine ? see below.Cheers,AN----------------------------------------------------------?What started as a request from an?Ausrace?member ?to access Australian race results has now expanded into far more than what I thought was possible to deliver via?the?internet.?What does ?Extreme Punter Intelligence (E.P.I.) provide ?????????? You can get?results of ?all Australasian races run since January 2016 ... more than 233,000 horse race runs covering over 23,000 races ... involving 38,000 horses.????????? You can select results for a particular group of races ... or all runs for a specific?horse .. or all rides for a particular jockey ... or any jockey /?trainer combination.????????? You can compare the performance of an infinite number of system scenarios?by using measures ?such as Strike Rate and the powerful A2E statistic.????????? You can export the results of any query into a CSV file.?And?due to the power of Microsoft's hosting of their Power BI application online (it's?the BEST thing that Microsoft have ever done) a typical E.P.I query only takes a few seconds ... amazing when you consider there are over 235,000 race result records !To access E.P.I ?you need to be a registered Member ? but its FREE to join ...?click here?to either register or login.Oh ?and can you please use AUSRACE as the Member Group when registering.??From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of Doug Robb
Sent: Thursday, 9 February 2017 2:04 AM
To: AusRace Racing Discussion List <racing at ausrace.com>
Subject: Re: [AusRace] Formatting?Just testing this for Mike. I've loosened up the post filters so we should be able to post spreadsheets and/or pdf files around to make it easier to read these sorts of posts. Also html mail should work as well so you can post a more neatly formatted email rather than just plain text. This message is html format with image embedded so you can see what I mean.?Re Len's posts if they are in the archive they will have been sent out so maybe check junk email (or spam) on your local mailer. I? did see one post Len that was held because it was over the size limit of 250k but I can increase this to 500k next time I look at the defaults.?Also a lot of addresses have triggered automatic block to send any more mail (since the email addresses seem to be dead). This is an example below. If your email is bouncing because the ISP is down and its bounced 5 posts back its blocked and I will go through and delete off the list. The subscribe page is on the website if you want to check you are subscribed at any time,?Doug????-----Original Message-----
From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of mikemcb at southcom.com.au
Sent: Sunday, 5 February 2017 5:12 PM
To: Ausrace Mailing List
Subject: [AusRace] Formatting?Try this one then I will give up if unsuccessful...?TRACK?????????? ????? RN???????? TN???????? HORSE?????????????? CALC1??? ????????????? FPOS???? WINDIV????????????? PLCDIV SYSTEMNAMESUNSHINE COAST? ???????? 1??????????? 5??????????? Zukaz?????????????? ?? 68.33??? 1ST ?????? 1.9???????? 1.2????????????? BETFAIRPLACE ONLYSINGAPORE?????? 2??????????? 1??????????? One Kinabalu??????? ?????????? 60.54??? 3RD ????? ?????????????????? 1.1???????? BETFAIR PLACE ONLYSALE??? ??????????????? 8??????????? 4??????????? Henry George??????? ????????? 61.08??? 1ST ?????? 2.2???????? 1.3????????????? BETFAIRPLACE ONLYALICE SPRINGS?? ????????????? 1??????????? 1??????????? Shivarchi?????????? 63.11??? 4TH ????? ????????????? ?????????????????? BETFAIR PLACE ONLYALICE SPRINGS?? ????????????? 2??????????? 1??????????? Kentucky Fireball?? ???????? 65????????? 1ST ?????? 1.7????????????? 1.3???????? BETFAIRPLACE ONLYALICE SPRINGS?? ????????????? 3??????????? 1??????????? Bel Maiya?????????? ????????????? 66.32??? 2ND ????? ?????????????????? 1.7???????? BETFAIR PLACE ONLYMUDGEE????????? ? 4??????????? 1??????????? Sprezzatura???????? ???????????? 66.47??? 2ND ????? ?????????????????? 1.4???????? BETFAIR PLACE ONLYHOBART????????? ?? 5??????????? 4??????????? Derasa????????????? ? 61.58??? 2ND ????? ?????????????????? 1.3???????? BETFAIR PLACE ONLYHOBART????????? ?? 7??????????? 1??????????? Hot Dipped????????? ??????????? 63.33??? 1ST ?????? 1.7???????? 1.2????????????? BETFAIRPLACE ONLYHOBART????????? ?? 8??????????? 7??????????? Big Duke??????????? 62.78??? 2ND ????? ?????????????????? 1.4???????? BETFAIR PLACE ONLYBORDERTOWN????? ????????? 2??????????? 1??????????? Battistoni????????? 62.22??? 1ST ?????? 3.5???????? 2.3????????????? BETFAIRPLACE ONLY???_______________________________________________Racing mailing listRacing at ausrace.comhttp://ausrace.com/mailman/listinfo/racing_ausrace.com
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From nick.aubrey at twonix.com  Wed Mar 29 06:46:43 2017
From: nick.aubrey at twonix.com (Nick at Twonix)
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 06:46:43 +1100
Subject: [AusRace] Is Favourite-Longshot Bias dead ?
In-Reply-To: <mbh69d02w80ixm2yhd5dfxa4.1490587793219@email.android.com>
References: <mbh69d02w80ixm2yhd5dfxa4.1490587793219@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <000c01d2a7fc$07c65000$1752f000$@twonix.com>

Hi Paul,

Unfortunately 30k record export is a current Microsoft Power BI limitation. However it can be overcome by dividing your export into 30 k chunks by using the slicers. E.g. export by year .

I have added a column called ?Odds Rank? plus a measure called Top5 which shows the % of winners in the top5 of the market. 

Enjoy,
AN

 

From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Monday, 27 March 2017 3:10 PM
To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com>
Subject: Re: [AusRace] Is Favourite-Longshot Bias dead ?

 

G'day Nick

 

Had a little look this afternoon and think it's kind of interesting. 

 

Couple of things. Is the export limited to 30,000 records or is that just a limitation at my end?

 

I was hoping to be able to check how some stats were holding up from a book i had years ago around the first 5 in the market but your data doesn't seem to have that? Well not without a bit more work anyway

 

Overall though, if anyone is big on stats they should have a look

 

Cheers

 

Paul

 

 

 

Sent from my Samsung GALAXY S5 on the Telstra Mobile Network



-------- Original message --------
From: Nick at Twonix <nick.aubrey at twonix.com <mailto:nick.aubrey at twonix.com> > 
Date: 26/03/2017 08:33 (GMT+10:00) 
To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com <mailto:racing at ausrace.com> > 
Subject: Re: [AusRace] Is Favourite-Longshot Bias dead ? 

Hi All,

Still very slow on Ausrace ? have not received a new post in over 2 weeks so I thought I?d send one ?

 

I have added TRACK CONDITION to the FLB query so you can now see how FLB results change according to various track conditions. The results astounded me. Especially useful with more heavy tracks forecast in Sydney for the Championships. If you are interest just  click on Is  <http://www.puntforprofit.com.au/2017/03/is-favourite-longshot-bias-dead/> Favourite-Longshot Bias Dead  and follow the prompts. It?s all FREE !

 

I have now uploaded race results from yesterday (Saturday 25th Match) plus I have extended the results back to the start of 2013. That?s now OVER A MILLION horse race records that can be queried in the twinkling of an eye. I tell you what ? Microsoft?s  Power BI application is a game changer for ANY business ? not  just Horse Racing.  

 

Enjoy,

AN

 

 

From: Nick at Twonix [mailto:nick.aubrey at twonix.com] 
Sent: Sunday, 12 March 2017 11:41 PM
To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com <mailto:racing at ausrace.com> >
Subject: Is Favourite-Longshot Bias dead ?

 

Hi All,

Just to let you know that I?m now updating the EPI race results on a weekly basis so that yesterday?s Saturday races (11 March 2017) are there now.

Also for those that are interested I have just posed the question on my website ?  is  <http://www.puntforprofit.com.au/2017/03/is-favourite-longshot-bias-dead/> Favourite-Longshot Bias dead ?

Cheers,

AN

 

 

From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of Nick at Twonix
Sent: Saturday, 4 March 2017 8:18 AM
To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com <mailto:racing at ausrace.com> >
Subject: Re: [AusRace] Access FREE race results ... and much more

 

Just to let everyone know that there is no software required to browse and export the results available in EPI.  All you need is a web browser.

 

Using EPI stats I have just made a post looking at Michelle Payne?s performance over the last 14 months.  Interested to hear what Len thinks.

http://www.puntforprofit.com.au/2017/03/michelle-payne-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/

 

Cheers,

AN

 

 

From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of Nick at Twonix
Sent: Friday, 3 March 2017 6:55 AM
To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com <mailto:racing at ausrace.com> >
Subject: [AusRace] Access FREE race results ... and much more

 

Hi All,

It looks like the Ausrace email list  has run its course but thought I?d do one last post to let you know about a new racing project of mine ? see below.

Cheers,

AN

----------------------------------------------------------

 

What started as a request from an Ausrace <http://www.ausrace.com/mailing-list/ausrace-archives/>  member  to access Australian race results has now expanded into far more than what I thought was possible to deliver via the internet.

 

What does  Extreme Punter Intelligence (E.P.I.) provide ?

*         You can get results of  all Australasian races run since January 2016 ... more than 233,000 horse race runs covering over 23,000 races ... involving 38,000 horses.

*         You can select results for a particular group of races ... or all runs for a specific horse .. or all rides for a particular jockey ... or any jockey / trainer combination.

*         You can compare the performance of an infinite number of system scenarios by using measures  such as Strike Rate and the powerful A2E statistic.

*         You can export the results of any query into a CSV file.

 

And due to the power of Microsoft's hosting of their Power BI application online (it's the BEST thing that Microsoft have ever done) a typical E.P.I query only takes a few seconds ... amazing when you consider there are over 235,000 race result records !

To access E.P.I  you need to be a registered Member ? but its FREE to join ... click here <http://www.puntforprofit.com.au/e-p-i-extreme-punter-intelligence/e-p-i-access-details/>  to either register or login.

Oh  and can you please use AUSRACE as the Member Group when registering.

 

 

From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of Doug Robb
Sent: Thursday, 9 February 2017 2:04 AM
To: AusRace Racing Discussion List <racing at ausrace.com <mailto:racing at ausrace.com> >
Subject: Re: [AusRace] Formatting

 

Just testing this for Mike. I've loosened up the post filters so we should be able to post spreadsheets and/or pdf files around to make it easier to read these sorts of posts. Also html mail should work as well so you can post a more neatly formatted email rather than just plain text. This message is html format with image embedded so you can see what I mean.

 

Re Len's posts if they are in the archive they will have been sent out so maybe check junk email (or spam) on your local mailer. I  did see one post Len that was held because it was over the size limit of 250k but I can increase this to 500k next time I look at the defaults.

 

Also a lot of addresses have triggered automatic block to send any more mail (since the email addresses seem to be dead). This is an example below. If your email is bouncing because the ISP is down and its bounced 5 posts back its blocked and I will go through and delete off the list. The subscribe page is on the website if you want to check you are subscribed at any time,

 

Doug

 

 



 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of mikemcb at southcom.com.au <mailto:mikemcb at southcom.com.au> 
Sent: Sunday, 5 February 2017 5:12 PM
To: Ausrace Mailing List
Subject: [AusRace] Formatting

 

Try this one then I will give up if unsuccessful...

 

TRACK                 RN         TN         HORSE               CALC1    

              FPOS     WINDIV              PLCDIV SYSTEMNAME

SUNSHINE COAST           1            5            Zukaz                  68.33    1ST        1.9         1.2              BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

SINGAPORE       2            1            One Kinabalu                   60.54    3RD            

              1.1         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

SALE                    8            4            Henry George                  61.08    1ST        2.2         1.3              BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

ALICE SPRINGS                 1            1            Shivarchi           63.11    4TH                          

              BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

ALICE SPRINGS                 2            1            Kentucky Fireball            65          1ST        1.7              1.3         BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

ALICE SPRINGS                 3            1            Bel Maiya                         66.32    2ND            

              1.7         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

MUDGEE            4            1            Sprezzatura                      66.47    2ND            

              1.4         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

HOBART             5            4            Derasa                61.58    2ND            

              1.3         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

HOBART             7            1            Hot Dipped                      63.33    1ST        1.7         1.2              BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

HOBART             8            7            Big Duke            62.78    2ND            

              1.4         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

BORDERTOWN                2            1            Battistoni          62.22    1ST        3.5         2.3              BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

 

 

 

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From womble at internode.on.net  Wed Mar 29 08:58:35 2017
From: womble at internode.on.net (Paul)
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 08:58:35 +1100
Subject: [AusRace] Is Favourite-Longshot Bias dead ?
In-Reply-To: <000c01d2a7fc$07c65000$1752f000$@twonix.com>
References: <mbh69d02w80ixm2yhd5dfxa4.1490587793219@email.android.com>
	<000c01d2a7fc$07c65000$1752f000$@twonix.com>
Message-ID: <4cb09ab9-8e5b-569f-f070-020d71eb251f@internode.on.net>

Morning Nick

No worries and thanks - I'll have a look after work

Cheers

Paul



On 03/29/2017 06:46 AM, Nick at Twonix wrote:
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> Unfortunately 30k record export is a current Microsoft Power BI 
> limitation. However it can be overcome by dividing your export into 30 
> k chunks by using the slicers. E.g. export by year .
>
> I have added a column called ?Odds Rank? plus a measure called Top5 
> which shows the % of winners in the top5 of the market.
>
> Enjoy,
> AN
>
> *From:*Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul
> *Sent:* Monday, 27 March 2017 3:10 PM
> *To:* 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AusRace] Is Favourite-Longshot Bias dead ?
>
> G'day Nick
>
> Had a little look this afternoon and think it's kind of interesting.
>
> Couple of things. Is the export limited to 30,000 records or is that 
> just a limitation at my end?
>
> I was hoping to be able to check how some stats were holding up from a 
> book i had years ago around the first 5 in the market but your data 
> doesn't seem to have that? Well not without a bit more work anyway
>
> Overall though, if anyone is big on stats they should have a look
>
> Cheers
>
> Paul
>
> Sent from my Samsung GALAXY S5 on the Telstra Mobile Network
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Nick at Twonix <nick.aubrey at twonix.com 
> <mailto:nick.aubrey at twonix.com>>
> Date: 26/03/2017 08:33 (GMT+10:00)
> To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com 
> <mailto:racing at ausrace.com>>
> Subject: Re: [AusRace] Is Favourite-Longshot Bias dead ?
>
> Hi All,
>
> Still very slow on Ausrace ? have not received a new post in over 2 
> weeks so I thought I?d send one ?
>
> I have added TRACK CONDITION to the FLB query so you can now see how 
> FLB results change according to various track conditions. The results 
> astounded me. Especially useful with more heavy tracks forecast in 
> Sydney for the Championships. If you are interest just  click on *_Is 
> _**_Favourite-Longshot Bias 
> <http://www.puntforprofit.com.au/2017/03/is-favourite-longshot-bias-dead/> 
> _**_Dead_* and follow the prompts. It?s all FREE !
>
> I have now uploaded race results from yesterday (Saturday 25^th Match) 
> plus I have *extended the results back to the start of 2013.* That?s 
> now OVER A MILLION horse race records that can be queried in the 
> twinkling of an eye. I tell you what ? Microsoft?s  Power BI 
> application is a game changer for ANY business ? not  just Horse Racing.
>
> Enjoy,
>
> AN
>
> *From:*Nick at Twonix [mailto:nick.aubrey at twonix.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, 12 March 2017 11:41 PM
> *To:* 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com 
> <mailto:racing at ausrace.com>>
> *Subject:* Is Favourite-Longshot Bias dead ?
>
> Hi All,
>
> Just to let you know that I?m now updating the EPI race results on a 
> weekly basis so that yesterday?s Saturday races (11 March 2017) are 
> there now.
>
> Also for those that are interested I have just posed the question on 
> my website ?  is Favourite-Longshot Bias 
> <http://www.puntforprofit.com.au/2017/03/is-favourite-longshot-bias-dead/> 
> dead ?
>
> Cheers,
>
> AN
>
> *From:*Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] *On Behalf Of *Nick 
> at Twonix
> *Sent:* Saturday, 4 March 2017 8:18 AM
> *To:* 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com 
> <mailto:racing at ausrace.com>>
> *Subject:* Re: [AusRace] Access FREE race results ... and much more
>
> Just to let everyone know that there is no software required to browse 
> and export the results available in EPI.  All you need is a web browser.
>
> Using EPI stats I have just made a post looking at Michelle Payne?s 
> performance over the last 14 months.  Interested to hear what Len thinks.
>
> http://www.puntforprofit.com.au/2017/03/michelle-payne-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/
>
> Cheers,
>
> AN
>
> *From:*Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] *On Behalf Of *Nick 
> at Twonix
> *Sent:* Friday, 3 March 2017 6:55 AM
> *To:* 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com 
> <mailto:racing at ausrace.com>>
> *Subject:* [AusRace] Access FREE race results ... and much more
>
> Hi All,
>
> It looks like the Ausrace email list  has run its course but thought 
> I?d do one last post to let you know about a new racing project of 
> mine ? see below.
>
> Cheers,
>
> AN
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> /What started as a request from an Ausrace 
> <http://www.ausrace.com/mailing-list/ausrace-archives/> member  to 
> access Australian race results has now expanded into far more than 
> what I thought was possible to deliver via the internet./
>
> //
>
> /What does  Extreme Punter Intelligence (E.P.I.) provide ?/
>
> ?/You can get results of  all Australasian races run since January 
> 2016 ... more than 233,000 horse race runs covering over 23,000 races 
> ... involving 38,000 horses./
>
> ?/You can select results for a particular group of races ... or all 
> runs for a specific horse .. or all rides for a particular jockey ... 
> or any jockey / trainer combination./
>
> ?/You can compare the performance of an infinite number of system 
> scenarios by using measures  such as Strike Rate and the powerful A2E 
> statistic./
>
> ?/You can export the results of any query into a CSV file./
>
> //
>
> /And due to the power of Microsoft's hosting of their Power BI 
> application online (it's the BEST thing that Microsoft have ever done) 
> a typical E.P.I query only takes a few seconds ... amazing when you 
> consider there are over 235,000 race result records !/
>
> /To access E.P.I  you need to be a registered Member ? but its FREE to 
> join ... click here 
> <http://www.puntforprofit.com.au/e-p-i-extreme-punter-intelligence/e-p-i-access-details/>to 
> either register or login./
>
> /Oh  and can you please use AUSRACE as the Member Group when registering./
>
> *From:*Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] *On Behalf Of *Doug Robb
> *Sent:* Thursday, 9 February 2017 2:04 AM
> *To:* AusRace Racing Discussion List <racing at ausrace.com 
> <mailto:racing at ausrace.com>>
> *Subject:* Re: [AusRace] Formatting
>
> Just testing this for Mike. I've loosened up the post filters so we 
> should be able to post spreadsheets and/or pdf files around to make it 
> easier to read these sorts of posts. Also html mail should work as 
> well so you can post a more neatly formatted email rather than just 
> plain text. This message is html format with image embedded so you can 
> see what I mean.
>
> Re Len's posts if they are in the archive they will have been sent out 
> so maybe check junk email (or spam) on your local mailer. I did see 
> one post Len that was held because it was over the size limit of 250k 
> but I can increase this to 500k next time I look at the defaults.
>
> Also a lot of addresses have triggered automatic block to send any 
> more mail (since the email addresses seem to be dead). This is an 
> example below. If your email is bouncing because the ISP is down and 
> its bounced 5 posts back its blocked and I will go through and delete 
> off the list. The subscribe page is on the website if you want to 
> check you are subscribed at any time,
>
> Doug
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of 
> mikemcb at southcom.com.au <mailto:mikemcb at southcom.com.au>
> Sent: Sunday, 5 February 2017 5:12 PM
> To: Ausrace Mailing List
> Subject: [AusRace] Formatting
>
> Try this one then I will give up if unsuccessful...
>
> TRACK       RN         TN         HORSE               CALC1
>
> FPOS     WINDIV              PLCDIV SYSTEMNAME
>
> SUNSHINE COAST          1            5            Zukaz 68.33    1ST 
>        1.9         1.2              BETFAIR
>
> PLACE ONLY
>
> SINGAPORE 2            1            One Kinabalu 60.54    3RD
>
> 1.1         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY
>
> SALE                 8            4            Henry George        
>           61.08    1ST        2.2 1.3              BETFAIR
>
> PLACE ONLY
>
> ALICE SPRINGS               1            1 Shivarchi           
> 63.11    4TH
>
> BETFAIR PLACE ONLY
>
> ALICE SPRINGS               2            1            Kentucky 
> Fireball            65          1ST 1.7              1.3         BETFAIR
>
> PLACE ONLY
>
> ALICE SPRINGS               3            1            Bel 
> Maiya                         66.32    2ND
>
> 1.7         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY
>
> MUDGEE 4            1            Sprezzatura 66.47    2ND
>
> 1.4         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY
>
> HOBART 5            4            Derasa                61.58 2ND
>
> 1.3         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY
>
> HOBART 7            1            Hot Dipped 63.33    1ST        
> 1.7         1.2              BETFAIR
>
> PLACE ONLY
>
> HOBART 8            7            Big Duke            62.78    2ND
>
> 1.4         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY
>
> BORDERTOWN           2            1            Battistoni 62.22    1ST 
>        3.5         2.3              BETFAIR
>
> PLACE ONLY
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> Racing mailing list
>
> Racing at ausrace.com <mailto:Racing at ausrace.com>
>
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From womble at internode.on.net  Wed Mar 29 20:37:37 2017
From: womble at internode.on.net (Paul)
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 20:37:37 +1100
Subject: [AusRace] Is Favourite-Longshot Bias dead ?
In-Reply-To: <000c01d2a7fc$07c65000$1752f000$@twonix.com>
References: <mbh69d02w80ixm2yhd5dfxa4.1490587793219@email.android.com>
	<000c01d2a7fc$07c65000$1752f000$@twonix.com>
Message-ID: <3e3be82c-1874-a9fe-9870-4a32974b905d@internode.on.net>

G'day Nick

Thanks for that - interesting figures

I can't remember what years the book was about but the number that 
always stood out in my mind was that only 10% of 3rd favourites won.  
Based on the numbers I've just checked for 15, 16 and 17ytd in your data 
it's up over 13% each year which lines up more with where it should be.  
There goes the plan of laying all 3rd favs to make money lol

I find it fascinating that despite having so much more information these 
days and computers to churn through the numbers favs still win around 
33% of races year in year out - although they are up a little more so 
far in 2017 i'd be surprised if it doesn't even out once again. 
Interestingly if you backed every favourite using your best price figure 
you would've made a small profit each year.

Overall, fascinating figures Nick - thanks very much for giving us 
access to them

Paul



On 03/29/2017 06:46 AM, Nick at Twonix wrote:
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> Unfortunately 30k record export is a current Microsoft Power BI 
> limitation. However it can be overcome by dividing your export into 30 
> k chunks by using the slicers. E.g. export by year .
>
> I have added a column called ?Odds Rank? plus a measure called Top5 
> which shows the % of winners in the top5 of the market.
>
> Enjoy,
> AN
>
> *From:*Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul
> *Sent:* Monday, 27 March 2017 3:10 PM
> *To:* 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AusRace] Is Favourite-Longshot Bias dead ?
>
> G'day Nick
>
> Had a little look this afternoon and think it's kind of interesting.
>
> Couple of things. Is the export limited to 30,000 records or is that 
> just a limitation at my end?
>
> I was hoping to be able to check how some stats were holding up from a 
> book i had years ago around the first 5 in the market but your data 
> doesn't seem to have that? Well not without a bit more work anyway
>
> Overall though, if anyone is big on stats they should have a look
>
> Cheers
>
> Paul
>
> Sent from my Samsung GALAXY S5 on the Telstra Mobile Network
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Nick at Twonix <nick.aubrey at twonix.com 
> <mailto:nick.aubrey at twonix.com>>
> Date: 26/03/2017 08:33 (GMT+10:00)
> To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com 
> <mailto:racing at ausrace.com>>
> Subject: Re: [AusRace] Is Favourite-Longshot Bias dead ?
>
> Hi All,
>
> Still very slow on Ausrace ? have not received a new post in over 2 
> weeks so I thought I?d send one ?
>
> I have added TRACK CONDITION to the FLB query so you can now see how 
> FLB results change according to various track conditions. The results 
> astounded me. Especially useful with more heavy tracks forecast in 
> Sydney for the Championships. If you are interest just  click on *_Is 
> _**_Favourite-Longshot Bias 
> <http://www.puntforprofit.com.au/2017/03/is-favourite-longshot-bias-dead/> 
> _**_Dead_* and follow the prompts. It?s all FREE !
>
> I have now uploaded race results from yesterday (Saturday 25^th Match) 
> plus I have *extended the results back to the start of 2013.* That?s 
> now OVER A MILLION horse race records that can be queried in the 
> twinkling of an eye. I tell you what ? Microsoft?s  Power BI 
> application is a game changer for ANY business ? not  just Horse Racing.
>
> Enjoy,
>
> AN
>
> *From:*Nick at Twonix [mailto:nick.aubrey at twonix.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, 12 March 2017 11:41 PM
> *To:* 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com 
> <mailto:racing at ausrace.com>>
> *Subject:* Is Favourite-Longshot Bias dead ?
>
> Hi All,
>
> Just to let you know that I?m now updating the EPI race results on a 
> weekly basis so that yesterday?s Saturday races (11 March 2017) are 
> there now.
>
> Also for those that are interested I have just posed the question on 
> my website ?  is Favourite-Longshot Bias 
> <http://www.puntforprofit.com.au/2017/03/is-favourite-longshot-bias-dead/> 
> dead ?
>
> Cheers,
>
> AN
>
> *From:*Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] *On Behalf Of *Nick 
> at Twonix
> *Sent:* Saturday, 4 March 2017 8:18 AM
> *To:* 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com 
> <mailto:racing at ausrace.com>>
> *Subject:* Re: [AusRace] Access FREE race results ... and much more
>
> Just to let everyone know that there is no software required to browse 
> and export the results available in EPI.  All you need is a web browser.
>
> Using EPI stats I have just made a post looking at Michelle Payne?s 
> performance over the last 14 months.  Interested to hear what Len thinks.
>
> http://www.puntforprofit.com.au/2017/03/michelle-payne-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/
>
> Cheers,
>
> AN
>
> *From:*Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] *On Behalf Of *Nick 
> at Twonix
> *Sent:* Friday, 3 March 2017 6:55 AM
> *To:* 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com 
> <mailto:racing at ausrace.com>>
> *Subject:* [AusRace] Access FREE race results ... and much more
>
> Hi All,
>
> It looks like the Ausrace email list  has run its course but thought 
> I?d do one last post to let you know about a new racing project of 
> mine ? see below.
>
> Cheers,
>
> AN
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> /What started as a request from an Ausrace 
> <http://www.ausrace.com/mailing-list/ausrace-archives/> member  to 
> access Australian race results has now expanded into far more than 
> what I thought was possible to deliver via the internet./
>
> //
>
> /What does  Extreme Punter Intelligence (E.P.I.) provide ?/
>
> ?/You can get results of  all Australasian races run since January 
> 2016 ... more than 233,000 horse race runs covering over 23,000 races 
> ... involving 38,000 horses./
>
> ?/You can select results for a particular group of races ... or all 
> runs for a specific horse .. or all rides for a particular jockey ... 
> or any jockey / trainer combination./
>
> ?/You can compare the performance of an infinite number of system 
> scenarios by using measures  such as Strike Rate and the powerful A2E 
> statistic./
>
> ?/You can export the results of any query into a CSV file./
>
> //
>
> /And due to the power of Microsoft's hosting of their Power BI 
> application online (it's the BEST thing that Microsoft have ever done) 
> a typical E.P.I query only takes a few seconds ... amazing when you 
> consider there are over 235,000 race result records !/
>
> /To access E.P.I  you need to be a registered Member ? but its FREE to 
> join ... click here 
> <http://www.puntforprofit.com.au/e-p-i-extreme-punter-intelligence/e-p-i-access-details/>to 
> either register or login./
>
> /Oh  and can you please use AUSRACE as the Member Group when registering./
>
> *From:*Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] *On Behalf Of *Doug Robb
> *Sent:* Thursday, 9 February 2017 2:04 AM
> *To:* AusRace Racing Discussion List <racing at ausrace.com 
> <mailto:racing at ausrace.com>>
> *Subject:* Re: [AusRace] Formatting
>
> Just testing this for Mike. I've loosened up the post filters so we 
> should be able to post spreadsheets and/or pdf files around to make it 
> easier to read these sorts of posts. Also html mail should work as 
> well so you can post a more neatly formatted email rather than just 
> plain text. This message is html format with image embedded so you can 
> see what I mean.
>
> Re Len's posts if they are in the archive they will have been sent out 
> so maybe check junk email (or spam) on your local mailer. I did see 
> one post Len that was held because it was over the size limit of 250k 
> but I can increase this to 500k next time I look at the defaults.
>
> Also a lot of addresses have triggered automatic block to send any 
> more mail (since the email addresses seem to be dead). This is an 
> example below. If your email is bouncing because the ISP is down and 
> its bounced 5 posts back its blocked and I will go through and delete 
> off the list. The subscribe page is on the website if you want to 
> check you are subscribed at any time,
>
> Doug
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of 
> mikemcb at southcom.com.au <mailto:mikemcb at southcom.com.au>
> Sent: Sunday, 5 February 2017 5:12 PM
> To: Ausrace Mailing List
> Subject: [AusRace] Formatting
>
> Try this one then I will give up if unsuccessful...
>
> TRACK       RN         TN         HORSE               CALC1
>
> FPOS     WINDIV              PLCDIV SYSTEMNAME
>
> SUNSHINE COAST          1            5            Zukaz 68.33    1ST 
>        1.9         1.2              BETFAIR
>
> PLACE ONLY
>
> SINGAPORE 2            1            One Kinabalu 60.54    3RD
>
> 1.1         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY
>
> SALE                 8            4            Henry George        
>           61.08    1ST        2.2 1.3              BETFAIR
>
> PLACE ONLY
>
> ALICE SPRINGS               1            1 Shivarchi           
> 63.11    4TH
>
> BETFAIR PLACE ONLY
>
> ALICE SPRINGS               2            1            Kentucky 
> Fireball            65          1ST 1.7              1.3         BETFAIR
>
> PLACE ONLY
>
> ALICE SPRINGS               3            1            Bel 
> Maiya                         66.32    2ND
>
> 1.7         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY
>
> MUDGEE 4            1            Sprezzatura 66.47    2ND
>
> 1.4         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY
>
> HOBART 5            4            Derasa                61.58 2ND
>
> 1.3         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY
>
> HOBART 7            1            Hot Dipped 63.33    1ST        
> 1.7         1.2              BETFAIR
>
> PLACE ONLY
>
> HOBART 8            7            Big Duke            62.78    2ND
>
> 1.4         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY
>
> BORDERTOWN           2            1            Battistoni 62.22    1ST 
>        3.5         2.3              BETFAIR
>
> PLACE ONLY
>
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From nick.aubrey at twonix.com  Thu Mar 30 08:23:27 2017
From: nick.aubrey at twonix.com (Nick at Twonix)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 08:23:27 +1100
Subject: [AusRace] Is Favourite-Longshot Bias dead ?
In-Reply-To: <3e3be82c-1874-a9fe-9870-4a32974b905d@internode.on.net>
References: <mbh69d02w80ixm2yhd5dfxa4.1490587793219@email.android.com>	<000c01d2a7fc$07c65000$1752f000$@twonix.com>
	<3e3be82c-1874-a9fe-9870-4a32974b905d@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <003e01d2a8d2$b83b53a0$28b1fae0$@twonix.com>

Thanks Paul. Yes you are right about 33% fav strike rate. I have now added
strike rate and betting analysis for Fav, Top2, Top3, Top4 , Top5 and Top6 .
But interesting how these stats change with track condition.

I will publish this with my update next Sunday. 

Cheers,

AN

 

From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Wednesday, 29 March 2017 8:38 PM
To: racing at ausrace.com
Subject: Re: [AusRace] Is Favourite-Longshot Bias dead ?

 

G'day Nick

Thanks for that - interesting figures

I can't remember what years the book was about but the number that always
stood out in my mind was that only 10% of 3rd favourites won.  Based on the
numbers I've just checked for 15, 16 and 17ytd in your data it's up over 13%
each year which lines up more with where it should be.  There goes the plan
of laying all 3rd favs to make money lol

I find it fascinating that despite having so much more information these
days and computers to churn through the numbers favs still win around 33% of
races year in year out - although they are up a little more so far in 2017
i'd be surprised if it doesn't even out once again. Interestingly if you
backed every favourite using your best price figure you would've made a
small profit each year.

Overall, fascinating figures Nick - thanks very much for giving us access to
them

Paul

 

 

On 03/29/2017 06:46 AM, Nick at Twonix wrote:

Hi Paul,

Unfortunately 30k record export is a current Microsoft Power BI limitation.
However it can be overcome by dividing your export into 30 k chunks by using
the slicers. E.g. export by year .

I have added a column called "Odds Rank" plus a measure called Top5 which
shows the % of winners in the top5 of the market. 

Enjoy,
AN

 

From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Monday, 27 March 2017 3:10 PM
To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List'  <mailto:racing at ausrace.com>
<racing at ausrace.com>
Subject: Re: [AusRace] Is Favourite-Longshot Bias dead ?

 

G'day Nick

 

Had a little look this afternoon and think it's kind of interesting. 

 

Couple of things. Is the export limited to 30,000 records or is that just a
limitation at my end?

 

I was hoping to be able to check how some stats were holding up from a book
i had years ago around the first 5 in the market but your data doesn't seem
to have that? Well not without a bit more work anyway

 

Overall though, if anyone is big on stats they should have a look

 

Cheers

 

Paul

 

 

 

Sent from my Samsung GALAXY S5 on the Telstra Mobile Network



-------- Original message --------
From: Nick at Twonix <nick.aubrey at twonix.com <mailto:nick.aubrey at twonix.com>
> 
Date: 26/03/2017 08:33 (GMT+10:00) 
To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com
<mailto:racing at ausrace.com> > 
Subject: Re: [AusRace] Is Favourite-Longshot Bias dead ? 

Hi All,

Still very slow on Ausrace . have not received a new post in over 2 weeks so
I thought I'd send one .

 

I have added TRACK CONDITION to the FLB query so you can now see how FLB
results change according to various track conditions. The results astounded
me. Especially useful with more heavy tracks forecast in Sydney for the
Championships. If you are interest just  click on Is
<http://www.puntforprofit.com.au/2017/03/is-favourite-longshot-bias-dead/>
Favourite-Longshot Bias Dead  and follow the prompts. It's all FREE !

 

I have now uploaded race results from yesterday (Saturday 25th Match) plus I
have extended the results back to the start of 2013. That's now OVER A
MILLION horse race records that can be queried in the twinkling of an eye. I
tell you what . Microsoft's  Power BI application is a game changer for ANY
business . not  just Horse Racing.  

 

Enjoy,

AN

 

 

From: Nick at Twonix [mailto:nick.aubrey at twonix.com] 
Sent: Sunday, 12 March 2017 11:41 PM
To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com
<mailto:racing at ausrace.com> >
Subject: Is Favourite-Longshot Bias dead ?

 

Hi All,

Just to let you know that I'm now updating the EPI race results on a weekly
basis so that yesterday's Saturday races (11 March 2017) are there now.

Also for those that are interested I have just posed the question on my
website .  is
<http://www.puntforprofit.com.au/2017/03/is-favourite-longshot-bias-dead/>
Favourite-Longshot Bias dead ?

Cheers,

AN

 

 

From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of Nick at Twonix
Sent: Saturday, 4 March 2017 8:18 AM
To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com
<mailto:racing at ausrace.com> >
Subject: Re: [AusRace] Access FREE race results ... and much more

 

Just to let everyone know that there is no software required to browse and
export the results available in EPI.  All you need is a web browser.

 

Using EPI stats I have just made a post looking at Michelle Payne's
performance over the last 14 months.  Interested to hear what Len thinks.

http://www.puntforprofit.com.au/2017/03/michelle-payne-the-good-the-bad-and-
the-ugly/

 

Cheers,

AN

 

 

From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of Nick at Twonix
Sent: Friday, 3 March 2017 6:55 AM
To: 'AusRace Racing Discussion List' <racing at ausrace.com
<mailto:racing at ausrace.com> >
Subject: [AusRace] Access FREE race results ... and much more

 

Hi All,

It looks like the Ausrace email list  has run its course but thought I'd do
one last post to let you know about a new racing project of mine . see
below.

Cheers,

AN

----------------------------------------------------------

 

What started as a request from an Ausrace
<http://www.ausrace.com/mailing-list/ausrace-archives/>  member  to access
Australian race results has now expanded into far more than what I thought
was possible to deliver via the internet.

 

What does  Extreme Punter Intelligence (E.P.I.) provide ?

*         You can get results of  all Australasian races run since January
2016 ... more than 233,000 horse race runs covering over 23,000 races ...
involving 38,000 horses.

*         You can select results for a particular group of races ... or all
runs for a specific horse .. or all rides for a particular jockey ... or any
jockey / trainer combination.

*         You can compare the performance of an infinite number of system
scenarios by using measures  such as Strike Rate and the powerful A2E
statistic.

*         You can export the results of any query into a CSV file.

 

And due to the power of Microsoft's hosting of their Power BI application
online (it's the BEST thing that Microsoft have ever done) a typical E.P.I
query only takes a few seconds ... amazing when you consider there are over
235,000 race result records !

To access E.P.I  you need to be a registered Member . but its FREE to join
... click here
<http://www.puntforprofit.com.au/e-p-i-extreme-punter-intelligence/e-p-i-acc
ess-details/>  to either register or login.

Oh  and can you please use AUSRACE as the Member Group when registering.

 

 

From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of Doug Robb
Sent: Thursday, 9 February 2017 2:04 AM
To: AusRace Racing Discussion List <racing at ausrace.com
<mailto:racing at ausrace.com> >
Subject: Re: [AusRace] Formatting

 

Just testing this for Mike. I've loosened up the post filters so we should
be able to post spreadsheets and/or pdf files around to make it easier to
read these sorts of posts. Also html mail should work as well so you can
post a more neatly formatted email rather than just plain text. This message
is html format with image embedded so you can see what I mean.

 

Re Len's posts if they are in the archive they will have been sent out so
maybe check junk email (or spam) on your local mailer. I  did see one post
Len that was held because it was over the size limit of 250k but I can
increase this to 500k next time I look at the defaults.

 

Also a lot of addresses have triggered automatic block to send any more mail
(since the email addresses seem to be dead). This is an example below. If
your email is bouncing because the ISP is down and its bounced 5 posts back
its blocked and I will go through and delete off the list. The subscribe
page is on the website if you want to check you are subscribed at any time,

 

Doug

 

 



 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Racing [mailto:racing-bounces at ausrace.com] On Behalf Of
mikemcb at southcom.com.au <mailto:mikemcb at southcom.com.au> 
Sent: Sunday, 5 February 2017 5:12 PM
To: Ausrace Mailing List
Subject: [AusRace] Formatting

 

Try this one then I will give up if unsuccessful...

 

TRACK                 RN         TN         HORSE               CALC1    

              FPOS     WINDIV              PLCDIV SYSTEMNAME

SUNSHINE COAST           1            5            Zukaz
68.33    1ST        1.9         1.2              BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

SINGAPORE       2            1            One Kinabalu
60.54    3RD            

              1.1         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

SALE                    8            4            Henry George
61.08    1ST        2.2         1.3              BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

ALICE SPRINGS                 1            1            Shivarchi
63.11    4TH                          

              BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

ALICE SPRINGS                 2            1            Kentucky Fireball
65          1ST        1.7              1.3         BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

ALICE SPRINGS                 3            1            Bel Maiya
66.32    2ND            

              1.7         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

MUDGEE            4            1            Sprezzatura
66.47    2ND            

              1.4         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

HOBART             5            4            Derasa                61.58
2ND            

              1.3         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

HOBART             7            1            Hot Dipped
63.33    1ST        1.7         1.2              BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

HOBART             8            7            Big Duke            62.78
2ND            

              1.4         BETFAIR PLACE ONLY

BORDERTOWN                2            1            Battistoni
62.22    1ST        3.5         2.3              BETFAIR

PLACE ONLY

 

 

 

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