[AusRace] Even superhorses dont have anti gravity powers.

Mon Mar 2 21:23:22 CST 2009

I am discussing a point, I certainly don't have a problem finding winners.

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From: "r" <speedpcs at bigpond.net.au>
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> And obviously thats your problem, losers, LOL
>
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> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 2:07 PM
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>> It's no good getting value about losers - that's the salt!
>>
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>> From: "r" <speedpcs at bigpond.net.au>
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>> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 1:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AusRace] Even superhorses dont have anti gravity powers.
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>>
>>> Yeah, so the handicapper has made the top selection easy? = but any
>>> punter
>>> worth his salt knows its not about betting on the best horse, as the 
>>> best
>>> horses does not always win, but about betting on the horse of best 
>>> value.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "RaceStats" <RaceStats at hotmail.com>
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>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 1:27 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AusRace] Even superhorses dont have anti gravity powers.
>>>
>>>
>>>> So the handicapping system is not a handicap at all.
>>>> No, you may as well back the highest weighted horses which are in form
>>>> and
>>>> put all your resources into getting the very best price you can.
>>>> The handicapper has made actual selection easy.
>>>>
>>>> Personally, I'd like to see a complete review of the system.
>>>> Every horse should have a chance.
>>>>
>>>> Lindsay.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "r" <speedpcs at bigpond.net.au>
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>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 12:25 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AusRace] Even superhorses dont have anti gravity powers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The top weights are usually the well weighted horses, and thats the
>>>>> reason
>>>>> for the good strike rates.
>>>>>
>>>>> But you need to actually compare there weight to there form/class to
>>>>> access
>>>>> this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Otherwise you may as just back your favourite coloured horses.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Tony James" <tonyturfaccntant at yahoo.com.au>
>>>>> To: "AusRace Mailing List" <ausrace at ausrace.com>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 12:20 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AusRace] Even superhorses dont have anti gravity powers.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> with top and bottom weights too close in modern handicaps
>>>>> weight does matter in that the horses with more weight will win more
>>>>> races
>>>>> than
>>>>> "the well weighted horses"
>>>>> you only have to list saddle cloth numbers of handicap races with win
>>>>> strikwe rates
>>>>> no 1 out performs no 2 that out perfrms no 3 etc
>>>>> weight matters but in the reverse to what most think
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>>> From: r <speedpcs at bigpond.net.au>
>>>>> To: AusRace Mailing List <ausrace at ausrace.com>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, 28 February, 2009 11:55:46 AM
>>>>> Subject: [AusRace] Even superhorses dont have anti gravity powers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mate, i can tell you with 99.9% certainty that weight does matter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Its easy to prove over a large number of races. (one race proves
>>>>> nothing)
>>>>>
>>>>> Rate every horse in every race as if its carrying 55kgs, this takes
>>>>> away
>>>>> the
>>>>> effect of varied weights on ratings
>>>>>
>>>>> You will note that weight may actually even be underated by punters, 
>>>>> as
>>>>> the
>>>>> well weighted horses will usually out perform the poorly weighted
>>>>> horses
>>>>> not
>>>>> only on preformance, but via return on investments.
>>>>>
>>>>> It may be argued people who think that weights dont matter, simply do
>>>>> not
>>>>> know how to use stats to handicap races, including weight and its
>>>>> effect
>>>>> on
>>>>> margins, pace assist, racing without cover etc etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> So they just come to the saver conclusion that weights dont matter,
>>>>> which
>>>>> is
>>>>> probably true for there methods of handicapping.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "John Doepel" <glenglen at iinet.net.au>
>>>>> To: "'AusRace Mailing List'" <ausrace at ausrace.com>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 11:39 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AusRace] Does weight matter - General Mack..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Scotty,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At last a chance to find out, definitively, once and for all, whether
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> weight matters!!!! Drum roll.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The next at Wagga - the two class harses are the 1 and the 2, and are
>>>>>> weighted accordingly at 60 and 59.5 with the rest of the field being
>>>>>> 55
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> 54 before allowances.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The 1, GM, is currently showing 7.60 and its most recent wins it has
>>>>>> carried
>>>>>> 53.5
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The 2 Stash of Gold , currently 3.40 has recently won carring 58, 59,
>>>>>> 59.5,
>>>>>> and 59.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If weight matters the fav wins. If it doesen't the toppie.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will back my beliefs with a dollar each way on General Mack.., to
>>>>>> whom
>>>>>> weight does NOT matter
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John
>>>>>>
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